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I believe the system is even more simplistic than you might be imagining, this isn't like a tesla where there are motors at every wheel, there's nothing different about the brakes. The internals of the transmission are probably mostly similar to the 850RE

Basically the difference is the torque converter is replaced with a large motor-generator. Besides battery and cooling that's about it. When running in electric or hybrid mode, that motor is spinning the input shaft of the transmission during acceleration (either by itself or in conjunction with the gas engine), during deceleration that engine is being spun and works like a generator to restore some power (regenerative "braking").
teslasfor sale right now have up to two motors
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So you are saying that the regenerative brakes don't have anything at the wheel? Are they more like engine braking with a generator in the transmission?
That's my understanding. I guess technically it'd be motor-braking because the electric motor (at the front of the transmission) is slowing down the vehicle and storing the energy produced into the battery.

This picture shows the differences in blue, the rear axle is simply the gladiator Max Tow because of the increased GVWR, brakes should be the same.

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By the definition of "close minded" how does me saying, it's "nearly useless off-road" play into close minded ? It does not.
It was indicated in the video posted on this thread, that they got significant use from the electrical power on the trails. Yet you are saying it is "nearly useless". Sounds close minded to me.
 

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It was indicated in the video posted on this thread, that they got significant use from the electrical power on the trails. Yet you are saying it is "nearly useless". Sounds close minded to me.
What a salesman says and reality aren't always the same. I keep an open mind until a product has been proven. On Post #23 and 3.58 minutes into the video the engineer says, We have not gotten EPA certification as to all electric range, looking like 25 miles. Nothing about off-road verse payment. I see this as "nearly useless off road". The added expense, complexity and weight makes it "nearly useless off road" based on 50 + years wheeling ICE 4x's. My electric MTB on the other hand has no other power source other than my old legs and is well worth having IMHO
 

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What a salesman says and reality aren't always the same. I keep an open mind until a product has been proven. On Post #23 and 3.58 minutes into the video the engineer says, We have not gotten EPA certification as to all electric range, looking like 25 miles. Nothing about off-road verse payment. I see this as "nearly useless off road". The added expense, complexity and weight makes it "nearly useless off road" based on 50 + years wheeling ICE 4x's. My electric MTB on the other hand has no other power source other than my old legs and is well worth having IMHO
I most definitely do not have 50+ years of wheeling experience. I would have thought that having large amount of torque available instantaneously would be beneficial in many off-road situations. Based on your experience do you feel that would not be the case?
 

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I most definitely do not have 50+ years of wheeling experience. I would have thought that having large amount of torque available instantaneously would be beneficial in many off-road situations. Based on your experience do you feel that would not be the case?
Depends on the traction.
 

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What a salesman says and reality aren't always the same. I keep an open mind until a product has been proven. On Post #23 and 3.58 minutes into the video the engineer says, We have not gotten EPA certification as to all electric range, looking like 25 miles. Nothing about off-road verse payment. I see this as "nearly useless off road". The added expense, complexity and weight makes it "nearly useless off road" based on 50 + years wheeling ICE 4x's. My electric MTB on the other hand has no other power source other than my old legs and is well worth having IMHO
Looks like you just like to argue.
 

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Okay, where the price will be announced?
 

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That's gonna change, at least a bit... Jeep is installing solar-powered charging stations on the Rubicon and in Moab as part of the marketing effort around this.

https://jalopnik.com/jeep-is-installing-solar-chargers-off-road-in-rubicon-a-1844957787
Not to mention it has an onboard 2 liter turbo-powered generator and simple controls to manage charge or usage of the battery energy.

Drive to the trail in ICE mode and arrive with a fully charged battery. Then switch into silent torque monster mode when you hit the trail. It sounds great. At least in theory hehe.
 

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In theory the 4XE has a lot of potential...but a lot of weight also. We shall soon know a lot more. This thing could be a home run or a complete error. Electric vehicles are the future regardless of how we feel about them.
 

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In theory the 4XE has a lot of potential...but a lot of weight also. We shall soon know a lot more. This thing could be a home run or a complete error. Electric vehicles are the future regardless of how we feel about them.
I think they fact that they're using a "mostly proven" off the shelf transmission for the hybrid system strongly suggests that this will be executed well
 

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Drive to the trail in ICE mode and arrive with a fully charged battery. Then switch into silent torque monster mode when you hit the trail. It sounds great. At least in theory hehe.
Plus if your commute is less than 25 miles and you can plug it in at night, you'll very rarely need to buy gas! That is pretty darn nice.

If this was available when I bought my Jeep, I probably would have gone for it.
 

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They posted on jeep.com that it’ll be available in December. So when will the order banks open up for it?
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