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I would assume incompetence before malice. Ask them which bolt.
I did they couldn't tell me since it was a sales guy relaying what a tech said
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I started to realize that as I was researching.

I've spent like 5 hours tonight learning tire sizes again. It's been a few years. I've been playing around with what sizes are available and what will make the most sense. I think I came to the conclusion that 255/80/17 is the best option to keep the width the same on the wheels and still get a ~33 in tire. Bfg makes a 34x10.5x17 but at $403 a tire it just doesn't seem like the best buy for an additional inch. I can get 255/80's for under $300 a tire, only bad part is no Ko2's.

Considering it'll be in snow a lot I also decided that a narrow tire would also give better snow traction. I went full adhd hyper focus on this (if you know you know what that means).

From what's available in that size I'm leaning discovery st or wildpeak at3. I've never ran toyo or nitto.

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Tire prices have shot through the roof just in the last week, with popular tires suddenly going into backorder.

I’ve been keeping an eye on 285/75R18 tires for a while. Duratrac went from $260, to $330 to $360 within 10 days; Falken Wildpeak AT is completely gone everywhere.

The KO2 34x10.5 tire you mention, was $360 for the longest time; now it’s over $400 each.

Very weird.
 
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Tire prices have shot through the roof just in the last week, with popular tires suddenly going into backorder.

I’ve been keeping an eye on 285/75R18 tires for a while. Duratrac went from $260, to $330 to $360 within 10 days; Falken Wildpeak AT is completely gone everywhere.

Very weird.

This is my 3rd full set of tires I'm purchasing this year. I had noticed that when my truck size became unavailable in wildpeak and had to go with the rubitrek. It's insane, the shortages are everywhere right now. Why I'm buying now even though my wrangle isn't even built yet. I think it's just going to get worse.
 

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This is my 3rd full set of tires I'm purchasing this year. I had noticed that when my truck size became unavailable in wildpeak and had to go with the rubitrek. It's insane, the shortages are everywhere right now. Why I'm buying now even though my wrangle isn't even built yet. I think it's just going to get worse.
I don’t know how long this “shortage” is going to last, but these prices are not sustainable.
 
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I don’t know how long this “shortage” is going to last, but these prices are not sustainable.
It happens when the government just prints more money, inflation is a real thing and it's likely here to stay sadly.
 

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It happens when the government just prints more money, inflation is a real thing and it's likely here to stay sadly.
These tire price hikes are NOT due to inflation.

If general prices were going up this fast we would be having hyperinflation, which we are not. Something else is going on.
 

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These tire price hikes are NOT due to inflation.

If general prices were going up this fast we would be having hyperinflation, which we are not. Something else is going on.
I’ve seen in other Willys threads that several people are receiving their new Jeep without the rubber all weather floor mats and a -165/195 line item for those on the order sheet. Apparently there is a significant rubber shortage happening right now. That’s possibly the cause for those big fluctuations.
 

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I started to realize that as I was researching.

I've spent like 5 hours tonight learning tire sizes again. It's been a few years. I've been playing around with what sizes are available and what will make the most sense. I think I came to the conclusion that 255/80/17 is the best option to keep the width the same on the wheels and still get a ~33 in tire. Bfg makes a 34x10.5x17 but at $403 a tire it just doesn't seem like the best buy for an additional inch. I can get 255/80's for under $300 a tire, only bad part is no Ko2's.

Considering it'll be in snow a lot I also decided that a narrow tire would also give better snow traction. I went full adhd hyper focus on this (if you know you know what that means).

From what's available in that size I'm leaning discovery st or wildpeak at3. I've never ran toyo or nitto.

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BTW, that KO2 size 34x10.5 actual dimensions are 33.5x10.5 inches, E-load; price right now is $405/tire.

BFG makes a KO2 tire very close in size to that one, 285/75R17. The tire’s actual dimensions are 33.9x11.3 inches, E-load; price is $298/tire.

https://tiresize.com/tires/BFGoodrich/All-Terrain-TA-KO2-285-75R17.htm
 
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I’ve seen in other Willys threads that several people are receiving their new Jeep without the rubber all weather floor mats and a -165/195 line item for those on the order sheet. Apparently there is a significant rubber shortage happening right now. That’s possibly the cause for those big fluctuations.
I hope that isn't the case with our order. If it doesn't the dealers gonna need to make that right.
 
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I have a 21 Diesel Willys with the Mopar 2 inch list on stock wheels with no issues. Dealer dried to tell me that the wheel would rub on the rear sway bar end link but that was on the rack only.

I went with the Kenda Klever 35X10.5x17 and have been super happy with them.

BTW, I got nearly 4inches our of the "2" Mopar lift. Because of that amount of lift I found that longer front sway bar end links were needed and I also added the adj. front track bar and the Rancho Geo correction brackets.
 

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The tires are on sale. Buy 4 get the 5th for $1. $1,767.70 + tax (they are blackwall)

They can’t be billed with the Jeep for the sale price so you would have to pay for them separate on a repair order.



Wheels with sensors = $395/ea x 5 = $1,975

Mopar 2” Kit = $1,750 installed

Take off credit for all 5 if we get them is ($1000)

That's what they sent wheels are the jeep beadlock wheels
When I bought my 21 JL, the dealer put a lift, changed out 5 tires to 35's & just added it on the final. It can be done, just depends how nice your dealer is.
 

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