2021 Willy's Sport EcoDiesel - Technology Bad?

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I know everyone seems to be all about the Rubicon or the Sport S, but what do y'all think about the Willy's Sport?

I'm super excited to see the Willy's Sport getting a 3.0 EcoDiesel option this year! I was very annoyed it wasn't available last year, and as I'll be putting in my order in October of 2021, great timing!!

My thought has always been, LESS TECHNOLOGY = BETTER!
I like the Willy's minus all that technological mumbo-jumbo! However the LED lights can stay!

My very first small buy will be replacing whatever larger rearview mirror comes on the Wrangler, and replacing it with a tiny circular one. I'm 6'5", and it seems every vehicle I drive the rearview mirrors always end up blocking my view out the right side of the front window. My brother has a '69 Torino GT with a tiny circular mirror and that's the only car I've ever driven I didn't need to duck down just to see out the right side of the front window. I figure if my rearview mirror isn't connected to the cars computer, replacing it won't cause as many problems.
My first large purchase will be replacing the 35-75lbs doors with 7-15lbs soft doors.

I'm a Mr. Fix-It-Yourself kinda guy... Don't know if any of you have ever replaced a power window regulator, motor, but it's a lotta work and usually pretty expensive. Tryna get to those dang impossible to reach screws! The crank windows on my old '95 F-150; I could replace the whole door lock and window regulator, crank, and glass in 45 minutes or less.
Simply put, I drive my vehicles into the ground, sometimes literally. XD I want to spend less time working on my car and more time killing it on the trail!

So anyways, any thoughts on the less technological Willy's Sport EcoDiesel?

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I ordered the base sport diesel. You are living in luxury with led headlights. The less electronics the better.
You believe LED lights will impact the longevity and reliability of a Wrangler? Normally when people refer to “too many electronics” it’s in relation to engine/computer, etc. when compared to the ole 4.0 TJ. I don’t think LEDs are going to make much of a difference.

OP - If you’re not getting 4.10 gears, which won’t come with the diesel, I agree to with the Willy Sport.
 

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Led was a joke...that will be one of the first few items I put on mine and since I was changing the rock rails and wheels and tires it doesn't make sense to get anything over the sport. I think things like adaptive cruise and safety group things will have long term issues. Fca can barely wire a cigarette lighter outlet without it having issues so needless to say confidence is not high.
 

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My thought has always been, LESS TECHNOLOGY = BETTER!
I like the Willy's minus all that technological mumbo-jumbo! However the LED lights can stay!
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So anyways, any thoughts on the less technological Willy's Sport EcoDiesel?
less technological???

3.0L EcoDiesel:
1. turbocharger
2. ESS
3. Exhaust Gas Recirculation
4. Diesel Particulate Filter
5. Selective Catalytic Reaction
6. Diesel Emission Fluid
Each of these systems has an array of sensors which are connected to
7. Powertrain Control Module
What could possibly go wrong???

Having said that, I believe that the performance of the 3.0L EcoDiesel outweighs the complexity. I have a JLURD on order and expect to pick it up in a few weeks.
 

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Well, I guess I'm on the unlucky list so far. Have been waiting 25 days for repair parts for the turbocharger that threw an engine code at 7100 miles. I really, really, really want to love this engine, but this is the 2nd check engine light with dealer replacement parts required in her short life. Send good energy from the universe our way if you wouldn't mind.
 

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The JL is a Technological nightmare if you want something simple. The turbo diesel is extremely hi tech. This line of reasoning is faulty. If you want low tech rebuild a tj or cj7. Drive it’s balls off and rebuild it again. the only real tech your talking about in a rubicon vs a willys is the front axle locker. assuming willys still have a rear locker.
I have had a Cj and tj and now a jlur. The JLUR is like The starship enterprise compared to the other 2.
 

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Well, I guess I'm on the unlucky list so far. Have been waiting 25 days for repair parts for the turbocharger that threw an engine code at 7100 miles. I really, really, really want to love this engine, but this is the 2nd check engine light with dealer replacement parts required in her short life. Send good energy from the universe our way if you wouldn't mind.

Check your fuses! I know it sounds crazy, but mine was in the shop over a month for a Def pump failure and it was a friggin fuse! just saying! good luck
 

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I wanna laugh because that’s so silly but it’s really kinda sad
i wonder how many or if any of the Jeep fires have been caused by a short
 

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I wanna laugh because that’s so silly but it’s really kinda sad
i wonder how many or if any of the Jeep fires have been caused by a short
I’m waiting on the recall
 

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I'm loving my JLURD - my 1st JL. For some reason, my Rubicon Hard Rock (JK) seemed more substantial/solid. But, I'm no Luddite, I bought all of the bells/whistles - especially the two safety packages. I just turned 65, and I need all the help I can get from the electronic nannies. And...no, I don't put complete faith in them, but it's nice to know they're there in case of the inevitable distraction.
 

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Now nobody get me wrong. I LOVE MY JLUR/D! I mean it! this thing is a beast. I would not trade it in for anything. I have a 2014 Sahara that has a ton of work done to it, and still prefer this one. This is the Jeep I've been waiting for my entire adult life. I started with a 92 YJ 5speed no AC. Then from that turd to the TJ with the 5 speed then the JKU and now this! Even when the dealer wanted me to turn it in on lemon law I said no. All Jeeps (I don't care what anyone says) will have something wrong with the model. YJ had AX5 Trans issues. TJ had overheating issues. First JK had Power issues and electrical gremlins, 2nd Gen JK's had steering and motor issues..ect. So, owning a Jeep means learning what the issue is and overcoming it. It's a lifestyle thing as well. Keep a towstrap and toolkit with you at all times and hope you need it for someone other than you is all.
 

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First JK had Power issues and electrical gremlins, 2nd Gen JK's had steering and motor issues..ect.
Hey Frank, I like the way you capitalized "Power issues" when referring to the minivan motor. I agree with the emphasis you to added, but you were too kind. I owned two, and I think they had POWER issues.
 

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