fefe2018

Well-Known Member
First Name
Felix
Joined
Jul 11, 2018
Messages
78
Reaction score
21
Location
San Francisco
Vehicle(s)
Wrangler Jl
Just curious as to why you wouldn't go to the dealer and have this done for free under warranty?
I have lots of suspensions upgrades on the Jeep, I was adding more and more upgrades in order to correct the steering issue. I tried two dealerships, but no luck....I guess I can just install it by myself and have dealer codes it.
Advertisement

 

mgroeger

Well-Known Member
First Name
Mike
Joined
Feb 1, 2018
Messages
4,399
Reaction score
5,667
Location
Hurricane, UT
Vehicle(s)
2018 JLUR "Fat Ninja", 2020 Acura RDX A-Spec
Occupation
I make microchips for a living.
Vehicle Showcase
1
I have lots of suspensions upgrades on the Jeep, I was adding more and more upgrades in order to correct the steering issue. I tried two dealerships, but no luck....I guess I can just install it by myself and have dealer codes it.
I would highly recommend reaching out to @JeepCares. The deal with the new cast iron boxes are if your steering is loose you ask for one... period. I doesn't matter that your Jeep has been modded. Both of our Jeeps are heavily modded and both got the new box. Those dealerships are giving you a load of crap. @JeepCares will put you in touch with someone to open a case. Hopefully you will get Marvin.
 

Mtpockets

Well-Known Member
First Name
MT
Joined
Jan 17, 2021
Messages
263
Reaction score
189
Location
Massachusetts
Vehicle(s)
2021 Rubicon 4-Door
Post 1 reads- “404 error” on both links in OP.

Links don’t work.
 

Trill

Well-Known Member
First Name
Chris
Joined
Feb 29, 2020
Messages
69
Reaction score
69
Location
CA
Vehicle(s)
19 JL
I reached out to the Tazer guys about using their stuff to do the re-programming and here was their reply:

"Hi there,

I do believe that that is being worked on at the moment, I know the engineer and programmer were experimenting. No timeline just yet."
 

BHo

Well-Known Member
First Name
Billy
Joined
Apr 29, 2020
Messages
61
Reaction score
103
Location
Las Vegas, NV
Vehicle(s)
2020 Wrangler JLU Rubicon Recon
Occupation
Engineer
Vehicle Showcase
1
I had play* in the physical connection on my Aluminum box (0.030”-0.040”), had the TSB Steel body box installed with power steering flash update.
The jeep still wandered and had play at the box (0.025”) plus shimmy in the steering wheel. After a bit of investigatory poking seeping the jeep I decided to check the steering box mounting bolts (4). The torque was WAY low. I torqued the bolts to 95 ft-lbs and measured steering box play! Now we have minimal play in the assembly (0.008”) and it drives down the road without issues on 37” tires at 32 PSIG.
Hope this helps someone troubleshoot this horrible shimmy/wandering issue on brand new Jeeps!
All measurements were performed with a dial indicator off of the same frame mounting point to the outside of the gearbox.
 

2mnycars

Well-Known Member
First Name
Dave
Joined
Sep 15, 2019
Messages
249
Reaction score
150
Location
Canada
Vehicle(s)
JLU
I had play* in the physical connection on my Aluminum box (0.030”-0.040”), had the TSB Steel body box installed with power steering flash update.
The jeep still wandered and had play at the box (0.025”) plus shimmy in the steering wheel. After a bit of investigatory poking seeping the jeep I decided to check the steering box mounting bolts (4). The torque was WAY low. I torqued the bolts to 95 ft-lbs and measured steering box play! Now we have minimal play in the assembly (0.008”) and it drives down the road without issues on 37” tires at 32 PSIG.
Hope this helps someone troubleshoot this horrible shimmy/wandering issue on brand new Jeeps!
All measurements were performed with a dial indicator off of the same frame mounting point to the outside of the gearbox.
Really helpful Thanks for posting.
 
  • Like
Reactions: BHo

jmcgarty791

New Member
First Name
Joe
Joined
Jan 5, 2021
Messages
2
Reaction score
1
Location
Long Island
Vehicle(s)
2020 Wrangler Jl
Just had my 2020 JLU At Browns Jeep in Patchogue NY. They had it for 2 days and finally the service manager decided that they don't want to touch it because it has Aftermarket parts. Its a 2020 with 5k on it. 2.5 RC Lift Kit..nothing major..... THEY WONT TOUCH IT. I ordered the parts from AllMopar and I'll do it myself. Appreciate all the info above, good to know I am not alone.
 

2mnycars

Well-Known Member
First Name
Dave
Joined
Sep 15, 2019
Messages
249
Reaction score
150
Location
Canada
Vehicle(s)
JLU
Just had my 2020 JLU At Browns Jeep in Patchogue NY. They had it for 2 days and finally the service manager decided that they don't want to touch it because it has Aftermarket parts. Its a 2020 with 5k on it. 2.5 RC Lift Kit..nothing major..... THEY WONT TOUCH IT. I ordered the parts from AllMopar and I'll do it myself. Appreciate all the info above, good to know I am not alone.
Have you contacted @JeepCares?

They are very helpful
 

Arrowhead

Well-Known Member
First Name
George
Joined
Aug 2, 2018
Messages
470
Reaction score
606
Location
Stillwater, NY
Vehicle(s)
2018 Wrangler JL Sport
Vehicle Showcase
1
I ordered and replaced the box on my dime. Pretty straight forward install. The pitman arm is indexed so you can't put it back on wrong. The only issue I had was with the Synergy track bar brace. It requires longer bolts for the steel box but Synergy got them to me pretty quick. Put over 5000 miles on it on a cross country trip with no issues. No software update either. Steering feel is greatly imporved - and that's with a 3-1/2" lift and 37's. I did need extra power steering fluid but it was hard to find locally here for some reason.
 

nmsjl

Member
First Name
Scott
Joined
Jan 1, 2021
Messages
7
Reaction score
25
Location
Mississippi
Vehicle(s)
2019 JL
I ordered and replaced the box on my dime. Pretty straight forward install. The pitman arm is indexed so you can't put it back on wrong. The only issue I had was with the Synergy track bar brace. It requires longer bolts for the steel box but Synergy got them to me pretty quick. Put over 5000 miles on it on a cross country trip with no issues. No software update either. Steering feel is greatly imporved - and that's with a 3-1/2" lift and 37's. I did need extra power steering fluid but it was hard to find locally here for some reason.
I also ordered and replaced the box myself while also adding the synergy track bar brace. My dealer kept telling me they wouldn't replace it because they couldn't duplicate the problem. I had about 1.5 inch play in the steering wheel and a pull to the right.
Drives great now, no pull, no wandering, and no dead spot.
Is it necessary to get the software update?
 

dirtdigr

Well-Known Member
Joined
Apr 13, 2021
Messages
51
Reaction score
31
Location
Oahu
Vehicle(s)
2020 JLU Sport S
Can anyone tell me what Power steering fluid to use? After I got the TSB done, the fluid is at the Minimum even when warm.
 
Advertisement

Icon Vehicle Dynamics
 
Advertisement
Top