AnnDee4444
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Nobody's cost estimate factored in the CAFE credits they're going to have to offset.
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I agree that FCA appears to be positioning this as a premium/halo vehicle. But enthusiast? Put that 392 in a Sport and I'll take it from there.Premium/enthusiast/halo letās face it theyāre trying to make this high end for a wrangler...
I would say the same about the ugly cheap looking black top and fenders. Too each his own.I will never understand the painted top and fenders. Barf.
That is what they make PPF for. Painted fenders all wrapped, self healing and then when it gets real bad pull it off and redo it. Jeep looks way better, classier and more like it costs, an arm and a leg.what?! if youāre using it off-road the fenders are ruined in 3-6 months
if you like the best top sun rider it looks stupid as hell with a painted top. Tree pinstriping? Roof rack?
id much prefer lineX premium on those for less money
if youāre a mall queen I definitely get preferring painted fenders but even then, thats color dependent IMO.
How so? A hemi engine swap right now is $35K from all the reputable places. No way will it cost less and you come out ahead even with all the "extras" that you don't want.Honestly if they don't back off those few things I'll just put tons under mine and do a 5.7 swap when the V6 wears out and be way ahead on price and capability.
I would take a couple of these - but that's the point - they should let us choose.These are all things that not only do I not want to pay for, I do not want them on my jeep, period. Way to go FCA - why can't you just offer the V8 as an engine choice and be done with it?
* Infotainment Group -1895
* Body-color hard top - 2395
* Body-color flares - 695
* Steel Bumper Group - 1645
* LED Lighting Group - 1295
* Safety Group - 995
* Advanced Safety - 795
For sure. I only lose 2mpg on my DD and my JL with E85. So the savings is signifigant.yeah and get 4mpg w e85
when i run in my flex fuel gmc 02 yukon, I get the following mpg (1 owner, 370k on it)-note that this engine DOES NOT have cyl deactivation,
e85 7 mpg
87 e10 - 14 mpg
89 ethanol free that I can get rurally - 26 mpg
so yeah milage varies
I don't know anything about CAFE and EPA but maybe, just maybe they don't want to maximize the volume as they pay fines or put in the penalty box so the 392's they "want" to sell they want to maximize those and not let people get the non-optioned cheap ones.I would take a couple of these - but that's the point - they should let us choose.
I am hoping (and somewhat suspect) that after this initial release 392, that it may become more customizable. My theory being they would want to spread their R&D costs over as big of sales volume as possible. That likely wouldn't extend to non-Rubicon models though or a manual as that would require additional R&D.
Seems like a reasonable play book - initial model where you can maximize the profits while excitement and interest is high. Then as things moderate, recoup some more of your costs. Oh - and did I say Bronco - this would help retain market share over time also.
Anyway, I'll be waiting to see how this develops ..... fingers crossed.
Apparently you missed the part where I said tons. I would do the motor swap myself. Mono color is boring. Even with a wrap I would destroy those fenders in couple outings. Nevermind that I hate the look.I would say the same about the ugly cheap looking black top and fenders. Too each his own.
That is what they make PPF for. Painted fenders all wrapped, self healing and then when it gets real bad pull it off and redo it. Jeep looks way better, classier and more like it costs, an arm and a leg.
How so? A hemi engine swap right now is $35K from all the reputable places. No way will it cost less and you come out ahead even with all the "extras" that you don't want.
That or the welding, take your pick.Does anyone know if they are going to include pre-seated fuses? Or do we still have to do that?
With 37-40" tires you start running out of power pretty quickly, especially in the 3.6 at altitude.OK so it wont out crawl a 3.6L or 2.0L Rubicon. Will not out perform a 3.6L or 2.0L Rubicon when off road. Same 33" tires. Has a Max tow weight of 3500 lbs., Just like the 3.6L Rubicon. Has less clearance than a 3.6L Rubicon(may have a 2" lift over the Rubi but the Pumpkin is still slightly lower than the 3.6L Rubi). But it does sound bad ass. More power so you can get up to that 65mph speed limit faster. Increased Torque on the same Dana 44's. I just think its overkill on a jeep built for off Roading.
Yeah, I hate that this has no red accents/dash.I love me red dash, I'd have to purchase one and swap it out.