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Sorry to hear that because these are awesome vehicles. Such a pleasure to drive. So happy every time I get in and hear the exhaust when starting it.

What are you going to get in place of the 392?
Man, this is out of know where you actually had a date. What direction are you gonna to know?
Wife has been recovering from hip surgery for months. She still has to use a step to get in her current Jeep on 37’s. So, she has a 2022 Lexus GX 460 inbound and we will buy a 2 door Rubicon (and leave it stock) to scratch the Jeep itch. The 392 would be bad ass. We have had this engine in a Scat Pack Challenger and a Grand Cherokee SRT, but just doesn’t fit our current needs.
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Wife has been recovering from hip surgery for months. She still has to use a step to get in her current Jeep on 37’s. So, she has a 2022 Lexus GX 460 inbound and we will buy a 2 door Rubicon (and leave it stock) to scratch the Jeep itch. The 392 would be bad ass. We have had this engine in a Scat Pack Challenger and a Grand Cherokee SRT, but just doesn’t fit our current needs.
Completely understand! Hope your wife continues to recover!
 

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9/18 update as of 2240 CST -

...still waiting on those XR392's to start moving...

Checking for new WindowStickers and/or BuildSheets...

3 new VIN(s) with both WindowSticker(s) and BuildSheet(s):
767427 sting gray
767458 bright white
767512 granite crystal

3 VIN(s) with BuildSheet(s):
767542 snazzberry
768029 bright white
768476 bright white

5 VIN(s) with WindowSticker(s):
722214 black
756723 granite crystal
761854 black
784592 sting gray
785409 snazzberry

Tracking a total of >>> 4656 <<< VINs
for the MY 2021 392
 

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Hey @cpost6 I need to borrow 20 bucks to get my Halloween/New Wrangler outfit! Help a brother out!
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WOW! That's cheap... I paid $34.97 for mine...
 

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6/18/21 Walked into the Dealership

6/23/21 Dealership Finally Placed order

7/08/21 Received VON

7/08/21 Contacted Jeep Order is passes Editing and is Schedule pending availability of production capacity. NO VIN ASSIGNED

7/08/21 Case Number assigned escalating to higher department to find more information.

7/22/21 VIN 812921 Assigned and Status Update: At this present time, all of the materials that are necessary to build your vehicle are being received and the build process should begin very soon.

8/26/21 Status Update: I show your order remains prioritized for production and at the present time all of the materials that are necessary to build your Jeep Wrangler 392 are being received and the build process should begin very soon. Estimated production plan timing for
either the week of August 16th or the week of August 23rd.

9/17/21 Status Update: Good News! At this present time, your vehicle is currently progressing through the build process. Depending on your unique vehicle configuration, extra time may be necessary for extra options, packages, or factory features selected with your build. Your vehicle should be concluding this process shortly and moving forward to the inspection and quality checks of the process.

9/18/21 Contacted Jeep Status Update: Vehicle is currently in Trim : Engine and Interior and should be entering Inspection soon.
 

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9/19 update as of 2255 CST -

...still waiting on those XR392's to start moving...
...nothing on Rebel's list appears to have moved today...
...searched through ~30k VINs and not many new at all in that batch...

Checking for new WindowStickers and/or BuildSheets...

4 new VIN(s) with both WindowSticker(s) and BuildSheet(s):
771642 black
775245 black
775521 bright white
776532 bright white

3 VIN(s) with BuildSheet(s):
775511 hydro blue
776129 sting gray
782990 granite crystal

10 VIN(s) with WindowSticker(s):
729229 black
729355 black
732818 black
732982 sting gray
746085 sting gray
746100 hydro blue
746418 snazzberry
749411 black
752444 black
770519 sarge green

Tracking a total of >>> 4667 <<< VINs
for the MY 2021 392
 

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9/19 update as of 2255 CST -

...still waiting on those XR392's to start moving...
...nothing on Rebel's list appears to have moved today...
...searched through ~30k VINs and not many new at all in that batch...

Checking for new WindowStickers and/or BuildSheets...

4 new VIN(s) with both WindowSticker(s) and BuildSheet(s):
771642 black
775245 black
775521 bright white
776532 bright white

3 VIN(s) with BuildSheet(s):
775511 hydro blue
776129 sting gray
782990 granite crystal

10 VIN(s) with WindowSticker(s):
729229 black
729355 black
732818 black
732982 sting gray
746085 sting gray
746100 hydro blue
746418 snazzberry
749411 black
752444 black
770519 sarge green

Tracking a total of >>> 4667 <<< VINs
for the MY 2021 392
Thanks for your dedication!
Mine hasn’t moved to the sticker point yet, but still probably gonna order a 22 or a 21 with the XR, since the dealer didn’t get it on this one. Glad to have this one in my back pocket just in case. What is your gut feeling on the 392 in 22? I can order a 21 XR 392 tomorrow if you think no 22s at all?
Thanks again!
 

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9/19 update as of 2255 CST -

...still waiting on those XR392's to start moving...
...nothing on Rebel's list appears to have moved today...
...searched through ~30k VINs and not many new at all in that batch...

Checking for new WindowStickers and/or BuildSheets...

4 new VIN(s) with both WindowSticker(s) and BuildSheet(s):
771642 black
775245 black
775521 bright white
776532 bright white

3 VIN(s) with BuildSheet(s):
775511 hydro blue
776129 sting gray
782990 granite crystal

10 VIN(s) with WindowSticker(s):
729229 black
729355 black
732818 black
732982 sting gray
746085 sting gray
746100 hydro blue
746418 snazzberry
749411 black
752444 black
770519 sarge green

Tracking a total of >>> 4667 <<< VINs
for the MY 2021 392
Membrain, any idea how many total wranglers have vins for 2021 and how many of the 4600 392s are xr? it isn't worth doing any new work I am just curious the % of 392s and of those xrs. my guess would be <5% 392 and of those <25% xr given how late it was introduced but that is just a shot in the dark.
 

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Thanks for your dedication!
Mine hasn’t moved to the sticker point yet, but still probably gonna order a 22 or a 21 with the XR, since the dealer didn’t get it on this one. Glad to have this one in my back pocket just in case. What is your gut feeling on the 392 in 22? I can order a 21 XR 392 tomorrow if you think no 22s at all?
Thanks again!
No idea yet if there will be a 2022 392 Wrangler - I think the results over the next 2 months may provide an indicator, but FWIW, the "chip shortage" is becoming a "chip crisis" and while we all want new vehicles, this crisis will cause prices to climb even higher on those vehicles that do roll off the assembly line... the auto manufacturers will have (or already have!) to make a choice on which vehicles to produce for 2022... it will be interesting to see how the current administration will react if/when the auto industry says it needs govt support.
 

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No idea yet if there will be a 2022 392 Wrangler - I think the results over the next 2 months may provide an indicator, but FWIW, the "chip shortage" is becoming a "chip crisis" and while we all want new vehicles, this crisis will cause prices to climb even higher on those vehicles that do roll off the assembly line... the auto manufacturers will have (or already have!) to make a choice on which vehicles to produce for 2022... it will be interesting to see how the current administration will react if/when the auto industry says it needs govt support.
that is a good point. even if they sold every 392 they made, from everything I read there are a lot of "one off" bits involved and the xr is even more custom. I read a post on fb i think from someone at the plant who said they had never done 35s before so at least dropping that might make business sense until the supply chain and production are back to full speed.
 

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Membrain, any idea how many total wranglers have vins for 2021 and how many of the 4600 392s are xr? it isn't worth doing any new work I am just curious the % of 392s and of those xrs. my guess would be <5% 392 and of those <25% xr given how late it was introduced but that is just a shot in the dark.
gee... :) total wranglers? the VIN pool theoretically runs from 000000 - 999999

the earliest pre-production 392 VIN I have found is 500100
the latest confirmed and completed 392 VIN I have found is 830133
...with more rolling off the line every day.

Unfortunately, I am only tracking 392 VINs... XR or not... Rebel's list breaks out those that have noted XR on their orders, but this does not account for the whole XR392 production...

I have been able to track VINs for at least 33 different Wrangler trims, which is why I'm only working on the 392 for this effort.

My other spreadsheet has the capability to, if you have the last 6 and if it has been built, at least provide the exact trim (4xe/Sport/Sahara/Rubicon, 2/4 door, engine type, RH/LH drive)...
...but to try and determine this information for the complete VIN pool is outside my current scope of interest... :)
 
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that is a good point. even if they sold every 392 they made, from everything I read there are a lot of "one off" bits involved and the xr is even more custom. I read a post on fb i think from someone at the plant who said they had never done 35s before so at least dropping that might make business sense until the supply chain and production are back to full speed.
We are seeing a few dealers with anywhere from 30% - 50% ADM on a new 392... (they need the money to keep making profit)
On my current 392 alone, and knowing that a dealer's business model is to make a 20% profit minimum on every trade-in, consider this info using todays' stats:

2021 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 392 with 1000 miles:
MSRP: $83710
Trade-in: $76875 - $86365 (average is $81620, but used car prices are also increasing as new car availability goes down)
Private Sale: $85875 - $93275
Retail (R): $87825 - $96075

$96075 - $83710 = $12365
20% of MSRP $83710 = $16742
20% of average trade-in $81620 = $16324
Max R $96075 less ~$16000 = $80075

~$80075 is what a dealer will offer me for trade on my current 392 so they can flip it for at least $96075 (depending on the local market)

The bottom line is to look at how much a consumer will actually pay for a new or used vehicle...

...also consider the number of vehicles damaged by the recent hurricane flooding which will drive those consumers to replace them... I foresee a big "ouch!" coming down the pipe...

...and you gotta LOVE those dealers still selling 392s below MSRP!
 
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Thanks for your dedication!
Mine hasn’t moved to the sticker point yet, but still probably gonna order a 22 or a 21 with the XR, since the dealer didn’t get it on this one. Glad to have this one in my back pocket just in case. What is your gut feeling on the 392 in 22? I can order a 21 XR 392 tomorrow if you think no 22s at all?
Thanks again!
Your guess is as good as ours on a 22!
 

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The only good thing with the prices if if you have Jeep to trade for a 392 you might actually have a very good deal especially if you saved money on the new jeep by going to a recommended one.
 
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