There is a few of us on the forums that have beat the hell out of the Motobilt boat-side sliders and have had ZERO problems with them. Everyone on the forums said "the body is too thin to handle the boat-side sliders and it will buckle" can eat crow as mine are SOLID after 1 full year of wheeling. I'm very happy with mine and would put them on again in a heartbeat as the clearance gain is amazing over frame mounted sliders. I couldn't run my RK long arm setup with a frame mounted slider setup as the RK rear LCA mounts are on the side of the frame.You had a chance to bang on these yet? I like the look just wondering how solid they are vs frame mounted.