2020 Wrangler V6's are now 24V VVT Etorque Engines

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The turbo 2.0L is a great choice unless you're a Luddite, in which case you wouldn't want the Pentastar with eTorque either.
First of all, great word! Though you are seemingly casting a pretty wide net with that statement…anyone that was willing to buy year one or two of a completely (well, mostly) overhauled new model generally wouldn’t be thought of in that context.

But hay, opinions are a big part of the forum and you are certainly entitled to post yours; it keeps it real :like: Though I’m not looking forward to what the PHEV Jeepers will say about all of us…

I wanted a manual trans, which I suppose may be considered archaic, but it’s fun! For folks like me, there is but one option…though I have no complaints about the engine. Of course if the diesel ever comes out in a manual…I could be totally in the dark ages! ;)
 
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Can anyone answer if the 3.0 Diesel is also ESS ?
 

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Ok....Thanks. I still have to wade through the numerous pages on the 2020 updates......
 

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Ok....Thanks. I still have to wade through the numerous pages on the 2020 updates......
lol, cue the "ESS will make your glowplugs explode" threads.
 

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In another thread I was told the extended warranty only covers the gasoline part of any engine, so would not cover the electric part of the eTorque engine. If that's true, I would rather stay with old V6 for now and consider eTorque in a couple of years.
The eTorgue part of the engine is covered for 8 years or 80,000 miles under the normal warranty.
 

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The turbo 2.0L is a great choice unless you're a Luddite, in which case you wouldn't want the Pentastar with eTorque either.

First of all, great word! Though you are seemingly casting a pretty wide net with that statement…anyone that was willing to buy year one or two of a completely (well, mostly) overhauled new model generally wouldn’t be thought of in that context.

But hay, opinions are a big part of the forum and you are certainly entitled to post yours; it keeps it real :like: Though I’m not looking forward to what the PHEV Jeepers will say about all of us…

I wanted a manual trans, which I suppose may be considered archaic, but it’s fun! For folks like me, there is but one option…though I have no complaints about the engine. Of course if the diesel ever comes out in a manual…I could be totally in the dark ages! ;)
Just saw your reply, something happened with the quote tag in your post so it didn't ping me with a notification.

I said that the 2.0L is a great choice, and the 3.6L is as well. Neither of them are a bad choice.

The Luddite part is mainly for those vocal people who complain about anything related to the 2.0L while saluting the "Old Faithful 3.6" and ignoring that the 3.6 in the JL is a new design . That newfangled turbocharger technology on the 2.0L? Been in regular use since the 70s. The 48V is being adopted across the industry in the past couple of years, so I mentioned that in my post because the eTorque system was a deciding factor for some people (at least until Jeep announced for 2020 that you can get the 2.0L with or without it).

There's nothing wrong with a manual either. My other car has a manual transmission and I enjoy the excitement and involvement of it, but I don't pretend that a modern DCT isn't the obvious choice for ultimate performance. I didn't look at the manual in the JL because it wasn't available in the configuration I wanted (turbo/Selec-Trac).

I have my reasons for preferring the 2.0L over the 3.6L. It's a great engine with plenty of horsepower and torque throughout the powerband (underrated even if you have seen the back-to-back 2.0L/3.6L dyno runs posted), and I think that a turbocharged powerplant makes a lot of sense for a Wrangler, especially if you are ever up at a high altitude. But if that rumored FCA inline-6 turbocharged engine ever becomes a factory option for the Wrangler? I'd definitely be tempted to get it.
 

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Just saw your reply, something happened with the quote tag in your post so it didn't ping me with a notification.

I said that the 2.0L is a great choice, and the 3.6L is as well. Neither of them are a bad choice.

The Luddite part is mainly for those vocal people who complain about anything related to the 2.0L while saluting the "Old Faithful 3.6" and ignoring that the 3.6 in the JL is a new design . That newfangled turbocharger technology on the 2.0L? Been in regular use since the 70s. The 48V is being adopted across the industry in the past couple of years, so I mentioned that in my post because the eTorque system was a deciding factor for some people (at least until Jeep announced for 2020 that you can get the 2.0L with or without it).

There's nothing wrong with a manual either. My other car has a manual transmission and I enjoy the excitement and involvement of it, but I don't pretend that a modern DCT isn't the obvious choice for ultimate performance. I didn't look at the manual in the JL because it wasn't available in the configuration I wanted (turbo/Selec-Trac).

I have my reasons for preferring the 2.0L over the 3.6L. It's a great engine with plenty of horsepower and torque throughout the powerband (underrated even if you have seen the back-to-back 2.0L/3.6L dyno runs posted), and I think that a turbocharged powerplant makes a lot of sense for a Wrangler, especially if you are ever up at a high altitude. But if that rumored FCA inline-6 turbocharged engine ever becomes a factory option for the Wrangler? I'd definitely be tempted to get it.
Hey @Agent47 , I see where you were coming from now, cool deal. I actually didn’t even test drive a Turbo because I wanted a manual, but I’ve read very few complaints about its performance and many more praising. I’ve never driven a JL with an auto for the same reason, but again, everything points to its superiority.

Like you, I like manuals and for me at least, it’s fun in a Jeep. Though, it would have been nice if FCA chose a little better gearing selections for everyday driving and not so much for economy numbers. Off road, I have no complaints. Well, accept they don’t and apparently won’t be offering manuals on any of the other engine options…

A straight 6…lights out. If done even marginally right it would be smooth with linear power. BMW had great straight 6’s for a long time and the turbo straight 6 engines seemed to have proven themselves well.

That engine…or the diesel would be tempting for sure.
 

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I wouldn't recommend one and wouldn't buy another. Once while running up Mt Whitney the Vue just quit moving. Had to make a reve5u turn to get down.
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Quick - dumb and likely misinformed - question:

If the 3.6 v6 and the 2.0T will both have the boost assist <1500rpm, why would anyone opt for the 2.0? Thanks


Edit: got it. It’s because it’s only offered in the Sahara. Now why wouldn’t that come to the rubicon...
 
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Quick - dumb and likely misinformed - question:

If the 3.6 v6 and the 2.0T will both have the boost assist <1500rpm, why would anyone opt for the 2.0? Thanks


Edit: got it. It’s because it’s only offered in the Sahara. Now why wouldn’t that come to the rubicon...
You can get BSG/etorque in the Rubicon, just not for 2020.

I chose the 2.0 because I wanted the motor with the most torque.

We had a 3.6L JL in today for some product development and figured we'd run it on the same dyno that we ran our 2.0L on and share the results. Check them out! I broke out the torque and HP so you can see the differences a little clearer. All runs were done on our DynoJet, in 4th gear, both automatic transmissions, and ambient conditions were very close for each.

2.0L VS 3.6L (WTQ & WHP) | 2.0L - Blue / 3.6L - Red

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2.0L VS 3.6L (Torque) | 2.0L - Blue / 3.6L - Red

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2.0L VS 3.6L (Horsepower) | 2.0L - Blue / 3.6L - Red

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You can get BSG/etorque in the Rubicon, just not for 2020.

I chose the 2.0 because I wanted the motor with the most torque.
Very helpful thank you. I am going to wait out the 3.0D.
 
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