2020 EcoDiesel Wrangler JLU and Willys JL Revealed at TX State Fair

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Did they say anything about the manufacturer of the diesel engine? I have heard nothing good about the Fiat diesel that is rumored to be the powerplant for this.
If you get it and IMMEDIATELY do a tune and delete it might last you over a 100k miles. If you do not. around 100K miles you are going to start to have EGR and particulate filter issues that will cost a pretty penny. That is if Jeep actually doesn't get you with their crappy DEF system. On the Grand Cherokee they put the DEF injector where simply hitting a puddle in the road too fast could take out the DEF injector. Let's see if they actually learned. I'm guessing not. Anyone that buys the diesel will be making a poor decision. It is not going to be cost effective.





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Good point on the 5k mark.

Wouldn't that be awesome, though? A JLU that could tow 5k? Dare to dream!
What is interesting is the XJ Cherokees, when equipped with the factory tow package, were rated to tow 5,000 pounds. Just don't try to stop!
 

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What is interesting is the XJ Cherokees, when equipped with the factory tow package, were rated to tow 5,000 pounds. Just don't try to stop!
So were the liberties, and kl cherokees. My old 4.0 powered zj was rated for 6,000. The 5.2 was 6,500, and the 5.9 was 5,500. Heat issues were supposedly to blame for the last one though.
 

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They already can. Use trailer brakes and keep the speed to 62mph. That satisfies the German and Australian laws which bring their JLU tow rating to 5000 lbs using all of the same parts as ours. Our ratings are based on the JLU’s ability to brake and stabilize a 3500lb load up to 85mph, which is lunacy and ultimately misleading.
German tow ratings are scary- basically set at tow vehicle GVWR, but with only 5% tongue weight and limited to 90km/h. The JLU has a tow rating of 2495kg, the gas Sport S (no plain Sport) has a 2494kg GVWR.

Other interesting stuff I gleaned from the German spec sheet: https://www.jeep.de/content/dam/jeep/de/preisliste/Jeep_Deutschland_Preisliste_Wrangler_JL_19.pdf
They don’t get the Ecodiesel in the JL/JLU. They use the 2.2 Multijet in 200hp trim. All automatic.
All Sport and Sahara models get AWD, Sahara comes with a hard top standard.
Gas and diesel 4 doors models get the same 21.6gal fuel tank and 2 and 4 doors have the same 5gal DEF tank.
Gas and diesel models cost the same, which is... a bloody fortune. A JLU-R is €47,000 before tax.
 

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If you get it and IMMEDIATELY do a tune and delete it might last you over a 100k miles. If you do not. around 100K miles you are going to start to have EGR and particulate filter issues that will cost a pretty penny. That is if Jeep actually doesn't get you with their crappy DEF system. On the Grand Cherokee they put the DEF injector where simply hitting a puddle in the road too fast could take out the DEF injector. Let's see if they actually learned. I'm guessing not. Anyone that buys the diesel will be making a poor decision. It is not going to be cost effective.
Posts like this crack me up. If you want something completely sensible and "cost effective", get a boring Subaru or Toyota - not a Jeep. Good grief.
 

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Side note. Read the only reason they actually didn't do the diesel 2 door is that adding the def tank would cut down the main fuel tank too much.

I say BAH! Engineers just lack vision. There is a bunch of space in each corner behind taillights. Hide the tank and put a filler hidden somewhere. Problem solved AND the 4 door can have it's 20+ gallon tank back.

Man engineers these days have no imagination.

Here is the article stating a Jeep rep told them as much.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.tr...020-jeep-wrangler-high-mpg-diesel-engine/amp/
 

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Why couldn't the DEF tank go where the 48v hybrid battery is for the 2 door? I'm hoping that we see a diesel 2 door sometime in the 10 year production run...
 

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Why couldn't the DEF tank go where the 48v hybrid battery is for the 2 door? I'm hoping that we see a diesel 2 door sometime in the 10 year production run...
Because damn it. That would make too much sense. To hell with your reasonable ways! We are automotive engineers! If we don't over complicate it, try to make it impossible to work on and screw up what customers ask for we wouldn't be doing our jobs.
 

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