2020 Diesel - too soon to buy?

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Yea, I am ready to pull the trigger on my 2021 order but cannot decide between the the 4CYL and the Diesel. Ugh. Keep reading problems with both powerplants.





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Yea, I am ready to pull the trigger on my 2021 order but cannot decide between the the 4CYL and the Diesel. Ugh. Keep reading problems with both powerplants.
150 lbs/ft difference between those two engines is pretty big.

Then again the cost of the diesel option is pretty big too.
 

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Ya know, if you are agonizing over the choice between an oil burner and a gas motor...ya should just go with the gas motor and limit your level of anxiety. In reality, a diesel is an absolutely amazing way to power four wheels and displace heavy loads, but your uncertainty and uneasiness is exactly why diesel vehicles don't sell to the general public (very well) in America.

Nearly all my vehicles in my adult life have been diesel...hell, I flew halfway across the country and took a two week road trip home to buy this Jeep Diesel, and I HAD NEVER TEST DROVE ONE!! It needed the first oil change by the time I got home.

With all that said, this is without doubt the nicest and most exciting 4X4 rig I have ever owned...It puts a smile on my face everytime I crank up that little oil burner...and get nearly 440 lb/ft torque and 30 mpg.

Ya need to worry more about busting a tire on the trail and leaving you stranded that this little diesel crapping out. Your money, your sleepless nights

JMO.
 

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The diesel is the powerplant that was made for the Wrangler. I’ve had the 3.6 and 3.8 and the 3.0 is an absolute dream and I have 37s with stock gearing. I’m not paying any attention to the mpg. I couldn’t care less because every time I’m in it i mash the pedal because i love the pull and my daily driver is a Gen 2 Raptor with a tune making 550hp. The Jeep feels just as strong and torque on acceleration. Everyone keeps saying this is a new, unproven Italian motor. That’s not exactly accurate. I think we’re all happy to proclaim that this is a new generation of the eco diesel with mostly new parts but it’s only new because it’s in a Wrangler. They’ve been in the Jeep SUVs and Dodge Rams for some time. I’ve heard of emissions issues with them, but they can’t be rampant or else Jeep wouldn’t have put one in the Wrangler. Forums are a bad place to get data on problems because people express negativity to a much greater degree than positivity and the forums are only a small percentage of owners and I would venture to guess many people only join them to either express dissatisfaction or to find answers to issues while the typical driver just happily drives daily without joining a forum to report on it. If I were to believe the a Raptor forums mine should’ve had the cam phasers replaced 3 times by now. I’m at 100k miles with no issues. I hope that continues to be the case but the forums create an anxiety that every time I start it I’m listening for that tell of a rattle. So, like the gentleman said above, if you’re going to be anxious about it then sit this one out. However, any modern vehicle that is performance oriented is going to have occasional problems. It’s a fact of technology. But no one wants to go back to them absolute unbreakable nature of early diesels with low horsepower because they were absolute slugs to drive.
 

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Yeah i couldn't wait anymore and went ahead and ordered a 2021 diesel fully loaded!

It turns out that life is way to short to wait on anything and here i was thinking we would live forever :/ but its not the case! So i said fk it...
 

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Thanks so much for the feedback. I have had a diesel Mercedes (problems), Diesel Touareg (flawless) and a Diesel BMW X5 (flawless), so I think what is happening is that I am listening too much to these forums and some on the issues rather that the good experiences.
 

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