2020 3.6 w/ out etorque or 2021 w/ etorque

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Hey everyone, new to the forum as I’m interested in trading in my JK for a JL .i was hoping you all can give me some advice.


After doing some research I saw that in the 2021’s if you want the 3.6 w/ an auto etorque is mandatory. I have no experience with etorque but to me it just looks like something else that will break eventually and that I can’t fix.


Should I seek out a new 2020 left over on a lot somewhere and avoid the etorque or should I not be so worried?

The only new 2020 2 door rubis are a few states away, would it be worth it to travel to avoid the etorque or should I just get a 2021 in my area and call it a day? Thanks for any help in advance
If cost is not a concern to you, I would recommend getting the eTorque because going to another state just got get a 2020 is not worth it in my opinion. I have a 3.6 without eTorque and absolutely love it. Those on this forum who have the 3.6 with eTorque like it even more. The eTorque is supposed to go better on your battery and make the Start/Stop process smoother. I would recommend it if you have $1500 to spare. If not, then I would highly recommend the Turbo 4 also (Without eTorque). That engine has also received rather rave reviews. I did not get the Turbo 4 because back when I ordered my Jeep (July 2019), not much data was out there to see how reliable is the Turbo 4. Now 18 months after my custom order (and 36 months after the release of the 4 cylinder motor), the Turbo 4 seems to be a good motor as there have been no major recalls or complaints.

Of course if you can find a 2020 Pentastar without eTorque in your local area, jump on it. That will be the best solution in your case.
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Get the 2021 if for no other reason than to not have to deal with the crap aux battery. My 2018 3.6 went through 4 aux batteries in 22,000 miles.

I have a 2021 now with etorque and am very happy with it.
 
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I am ordering a new JLR soon. Why is the etorque no longer available on the 4 cylinder? Also, if the 48 volt battery in the etorque fails, does it render the vehicle inoperable or will the vehicle continue to operate on the 12 volt battery alone?
 

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The 48v eTorque system is covered by an 8 year/80,000 mile emissions warranty though, unlike the non-eTorque batteries.

The last time I looked at allmoparparts.com, the 48v batteries are down to about $1,100. My guess is they will continue to go down some in price as more eTorque systems are in use.

I have two 2.0 eTorque equipped JL's. The start/stop system is excellent and I've had no issues with either of the engines or eTorque systems.
For those looking, the part number for the eTorque battery is 68381513AA. Currently the lowest price on the first page of Google is $1025.

The ESS auxiliary battery (part number BBAUX101AA) is about $106. However reading the comments above indicates that some sort of ESS defeat device is also mandatory, which adds roughly another $100, potentially voids the warranty, and could prevent you from passing an emissions test.

As far as reliability concerns, so far there have been many more auxiliary battery failures than eTorque battery failures documented on this forum. In my opinion the weak point in the eTorque system appears to be inverter's heat capacity, along with the additional cooling system maintenance after the 8-year mark.
 
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Would anyone know if a lift and tires will somehow void the etorque 8 year warranty? As much as I don’t want it it’s looking like i might jump for a 21’
If it doesn’t void that warranty
Thanks for all your help everyone, really appreciate it
 

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Would anyone know if a lift and tires will somehow void the etorque 8 year warranty? As much as I don’t want it it’s looking like i might jump for a 21’
If it doesn’t void that warranty
Thanks for all your help everyone, really appreciate it
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Just wanted to say a quick thank you to everyone who responded to this thread, I pulled the trigger on a new 2021 JL 2door rubicon with the 3.6 etorque motor. Dealership gave me an offer i couldn’t refuse. I hope you all were right! 😂
 

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I am really confused! Does anyone know why Jeep decided to drop the etorque on the 2.0 turbo and then make it mandatory on the 3.6 auto? It seems if etorque is such a great benefit and ess with the small 12v battery sucks they would of kept etorque on the 2.0 turbo as well. I am ordering a new JLR soon and haven't found any plausible explanation for the switch.
 

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I am really confused! Does anyone know why Jeep decided to drop the etorque on the 2.0 turbo and then make it mandatory on the 3.6 auto? It seems if etorque is such a great benefit and ess with the small 12v battery sucks they would of kept etorque on the 2.0 turbo as well. I am ordering a new JLR soon and haven't found any plausible explanation for the switch.
The rumors are it was to reduce cost of the 2.0 option. People were saying the 2.0 turbo with etorque was costing FCA more than the 3.6 non-etorque, and they needed more getting the 2.0 for fleet MPG ave causing millions in government penalties. Also, some said it was to avoid potential confusion with the 4XE coming out that also has electric power and the 2.0. I don't believe it was announced, or even hinted as to why though, officially, it just went away.
 

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We just ordered a '21 3.6 w/e-torque, the only way you can get it in '21 in Canada. That said we tested a used 3.6 WITHOUT etorque and it was so sluggish. If you are getting a choice, my opinion is I would choose WITH etorque.

We got the new 3.6 because we will be towing a new off-road trailer. If we were not towing, I suspect we would have done the 2.0T.
 

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What engine feel quicker and more responsive (fun to drive)? The 2.0 Turbo or the 3.6 WITH Etorque?
You'll never get everyone to agree on this, so I suggest taking a few test drives. I'm not sure how you define 'fun to drive', but both engines can be fun in different ways.

The 3.6 should provide more instantaneous throttle response off-idle since it is a N/A motor, however 2.0 has more torque until about it's redline. Additionally with equal gearing, the 2.0 will need to shift sooner when accelerating.

Check the 3.6 & 2.0 links in my signature for a compilation of torque curves.
 
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