2 Door Roof Rack Options

[entropy]

Maximus-3 is now selling their 2 door setup.

Where. I can't find it

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[OminousSkitter]

Where. I can't find it

https://maximus-3.com/2018-jeep-wrangler-jl-jlu-roof-rack/maximus-3-jl-2-door-roof-rack-system

 

[AgentTML]

How!?

The load is still being transferred to the top, not the structural roll bars!. The hardtop can only safely support like 150lbs or 100 lbs or something like that. So having an RTT on that, the load of the tent AND the people are still sitting on the top....

My understanding is their design incorporate supporting feet under the each crossbar to spread out the weight evenly over the whole roof vs. other designs that simply rely on just the gutter rails for support.

 

[entropy]

My understanding is their design incorporate supporting feet under the each crossbar to spread out the weight evenly over the whole roof vs. other designs that simply rely on just the gutter rails for support.

This is better, but the roof can't hold more than about 150lbs. Not the gutters, the roof. So even if it is evenly distributed, you are going over the roof rating. When calculating loads, engineers use a high factor of safety to be safe and to not get into legal issues from something breaking. The capacity of the top is actually probably around 450lbs, but going all the way up there is pretty risky imo. I would like to see this company testings to come up with the rating.

Definitely a good option if going with these type of bar, but I wouldn't use it to sleep on it. Carry camping gear or even a kayak by properly strapping front and back of the kayak to the frame of the Jeep. I am actually interested in these could be the sweet spot to get solid extra storage for camping. I don't use an RTT, but I am still hesitant over these offering a greater benefit than the mopar bars which already support 150lbs, supposedly limited by the hardtop load capacity.

 

[entropy]

https://maximus-3.com/2018-jeep-wrangler-jl-jlu-roof-rack/maximus-3-jl-2-door-roof-rack-system

$1350! and it doesn't even come with the ladder. Damn.

 

[Maximus-3]

This is better, but the roof can't hold more than about 150lbs. Not the gutters, the roof. So even if it is evenly distributed, you are going over the roof rating. When calculating loads, engineers use a high factor of safety to be safe and to not get into legal issues from something breaking. The capacity of the top is actually probably around 450lbs, but going all the way up there is pretty risky imo. I would like to see this company testings to come up with the rating.

Definitely a good option if going with these type of bar, but I wouldn't use it to sleep on it. Carry camping gear or even a kayak by properly strapping front and back of the kayak to the frame of the Jeep. I am actually interested in these could be the sweet spot to get solid extra storage for camping. I don't use an RTT, but I am still hesitant over these offering a greater benefit than the mopar bars which already support 150lbs, supposedly limited by the hardtop load capacity.

Maximus-3 has been engineering roof rack solutions since 2014, so we know a thing or two. With all due respect I don't think you are a roof rack expert.

The Maximus-3 JL 2 Door Roof Rack System has been tested with a static load of over 900-pounds. To my knowledge, our system is the strongest in market thanks to its mounting system which fully transfers/distributes the load to our heavy-duty internal brace brackets - mounted to the sportsbar "aka factory roll bar."

The hardtop is just sandwiched between internal and external load bearing brackets. There are thousands of Maximus-3 Roof Rack Systems in the field with zero-reported catastrophic failures - nor damage to hardtop. Our rack systems have even fared well in roll over situations. This system may be too much for you, but some people need to carry more than 150 LBS and that's why we created this high capacity system.

 

[Maximus-3]

$1350! and it doesn't even come with the ladder. Damn.

With a ladder you are looking at $1597, which is still $200 less than our closest competitor.

 

[entropy]

Maximus-3 has been engineering roof rack solutions since 2014, so we know a thing or two. With all due respect I don't think you are a roof rack expert.

The Maximus-3 JL 2 Door Roof Rack System has been tested with a static load of over 900-pounds. To my knowledge, our system is the strongest in market thanks to its mounting system which fully transfers/distributes the load to our heavy-duty internal brace brackets - mounted to the sportsbar "aka factory roll bar."

The hardtop is just sandwiched between internal and external load bearing brackets. There are thousands of Maximus-3 Roof Rack Systems in the field with zero-reported catastrophic failures - nor damage to hardtop. Our rack systems have even fared well in roll over situations. This system may be too much for you, but some people need to carry more than 150 LBS and that's why we created this high capacity system.

With all due respect, perhaps you should read the thread before trying to argue against a potential customer. My reply was to AgentTML about the system that he was talking about(not related to the max3 rack), as I am questioning the fact that it can hold a rooftop tent with people in it. I have never said the Maximus 3 cant support a large weight and somewhere in this thread I even mentioned it uses the roll bars to transfer the load, and thats which goes beyond the limitations of the hardtop. I believe the Maximus 3 is the absolute best rack for the JL offered at the moment. I am not a roof rack expert but with a masters in mech. engineering I know a thing or two about loads. I never questioned the Maximus 3 design.

 

[Boatbuilder88]

This is better, but the roof can't hold more than about 150lbs. Not the gutters, the roof. So even if it is evenly distributed, you are going over the roof rating. When calculating loads, engineers use a high factor of safety to be safe and to not get into legal issues from something breaking. The capacity of the top is actually probably around 450lbs, but going all the way up there is pretty risky imo. I would like to see this company testings to come up with the rating.

Definitely a good option if going with these type of bar, but I wouldn't use it to sleep on it. Carry camping gear or even a kayak by properly strapping front and back of the kayak to the frame of the Jeep. I am actually interested in these could be the sweet spot to get solid extra storage for camping. I don't use an RTT, but I am still hesitant over these offering a greater benefit than the mopar bars which already support 150lbs, supposedly limited by the hardtop load capacity.

Maximus-3 has been engineering roof rack solutions since 2014, so we know a thing or two. With all due respect I don't think you are a roof rack expert.

The Maximus-3 JL 2 Door Roof Rack System has been tested with a static load of over 900-pounds. To my knowledge, our system is the strongest in market thanks to its mounting system which fully transfers/distributes the load to our heavy-duty internal brace brackets - mounted to the sportsbar "aka factory roll bar."

The hardtop is just sandwiched between internal and external load bearing brackets. There are thousands of Maximus-3 Roof Rack Systems in the field with zero-reported catastrophic failures - nor damage to hardtop. Our rack systems have even fared well in roll over situations. This system may be too much for you, but some people need to carry more than 150 LBS and that's why we created this high capacity system.

@Maximus-3 ... @entropy was referring to another rack that was recommended in this thread.

 

[Maximus-3]

It appears we misread some comments. At first glance it sounded like @entropy was talking about our roof rack
Sorry for our hasty response. We love our new roof rack and we were just trying defend it's honor against what we thought was untrue statements.

 

[entropy]

It appears we misread some comments. At first glance it sounded like @entropy was talking about our roof rack
Sorry for our hasty response. We love our new roof rack and we were just trying defend it's honor against what we thought was untrue statements.

Oh that's fine. You guys make an awesome roof rack, and it is great for us consumers to have top quality options.

 

[mxWolf]

@Maximus-3 (or whoever already has this) , the listing says both:
"Allows for removal of "Freedom Panels" and "The hardtop can be removed without having to dismantle the roof rack/ platform"

Does this mean that the whole top can come off with it? Or just the front panels?

 

[Maximus-3]

The freedom panels can be removed as normal - no special disassembly necessary.

Our system uses a three-piece mounting bracket system. The top leg and middle bracket sandwich the rack to the hardtop. The middle bracket and lower bracket tie the system to the sportsbar "factory rollbar"

To remove the hardtop disconnect the middle to lower bracket (8 bolts) which frees the system from the sportsbar. Then you can take off the hardtop and rack together as one unit.

Hope this makes sense. Send any other questions our way.
Cheers

 

[Maximus-3]

Kudos to @Maximus-3 for bring’n a 2dr. version to market. I’m still holding out for a vendor offering an aluminum rack. All these nice metal aftermarket accessories quickly overload a Wranglers GVRW. FCA recognized GVRW on a wrangler was out of hand and cut weight with aluminum. Vendors need to get on board IMHO.

We somewhat agree. Our Maximus-3 2 door roof rack system only weights 60 LBS and is capable of holding up to a 900-pound static load.
75% of this systems weight comes from the Rhino Rack Pioneer Platform which is made from extruded aluminum. Our engineers decided that steel was the superior material for our Maximus-3 load-bearing mounting brackets (which only weigh 16 LBS.)

In conclusion our 2 door rack system does not weigh very much at all. In no way, shape, or form did we overload this system. It's manufactured from a strategic combination of Aluminum and Steel to provide a lightweight rack that is capable of holding extremely heavy loads. We stand by our engineers, thank you for your opinion.

My understanding is that FCA was under tremendous pressure from the EPA and other organizations to provide better MPG. So they cut weight, improved aerodynamics, etc.

 

[entropy]

Kudos to @Maximus-3 for bring’n a 2dr. version to market. I’m still holding out for a vendor offering an aluminum rack. All these nice metal aftermarket accessories quickly overload a Wranglers GVRW. FCA recognized GVRW on a wrangler was out of hand and cut weight with aluminum. Vendors need to get on board IMHO.

Actually the JL is heavier than the JK. So all that marketing going around that the JL is 200 lbs lighter than the JK only applies to JLUR vs. JKUR. In all other trims, the JL is heavier. The Maximus system is actually pretty light considering it comes with an entire platform. If you got a system with crossbars + the rhino rack platform you'd probably end up with relatively the same weight profile. I doubt you'll get anything lighter with the current offerings, the Max 3 is a very low profile system.

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