BaldEagle
Well-Known Member
- First Name
- Seth
- Joined
- Feb 11, 2018
- Messages
- 462
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- Location
- Los Angeles
- Vehicle(s)
- 2018 Black Jeep Wrangler Rubicon jl
I thought you ordered back in febI have not seen an official announcement
I thought you ordered back in febI have not seen an official announcement
It will be 70 days FridayYou did not get your Wrangler yet how long has it been
I ordered 2/16 I don’t think to many Turbos have been built yetIt will be 70 days Friday
I ordered March 19 no turbo in inspection frustrated but I am sure you are more than meI ordered 2/16 I don’t think to many Turbos have been built yet
The claim Rubicon built what ever that meansI ordered March 19 no turbo in inspection frustrated but I am sure you are more than me
I think they just started building the Turbos so hopefully things will move faster nowI ordered March 19 no turbo in inspection frustrated but I am sure you are more than me
Yours may be built alreadyThe claim Rubicon built what ever that means
Someone with enough motivation will be able to crack the encryption with a keygen of their own.Torque is how much power the engine can make. Horsepower is how fast it can make it. If you're buying the 2.0L thinking it's going to be a lot faster than the 3.6L, you're going to be disappointed.
"But I can tune it and make big power!" Maybe...but not for now you can't. FCA is using secure gateway encryption and the word on the street is that unless you have the key, you cannot make changes to the ECU. And only dealerships are being given the key as of now. With all the sophisticated (and problematic) new technology under the hood on the 2.0L, I expect FCA to guard those ECUs very closely.
As far as why it's automatic only, the reason is because it's easier to control emissions and pass EPA testing with automatic transmissions. That's why we've seen V8 Camaros and Challengers hindered by "skip shift" features on their manual transmissions for many years. And it's the reason we haven't seen a light duty diesel 4x4 with anything other than an automatic trans. in the last 15-20 years.
We're lucky that they even offered the 3.6L with the manual.
Yeah but they have no delivery date it can be stuck in inspection for 30 daysYours may be built already
Hopefully notYeah but they have no delivery date it can be stuck in inspection for 30 days
100% correct , I don’t care about MPG Personallyim willing to bet most people ordering the Turbo are doing so for sure he increase in power and acceleration not the gas mileage
Can I count the Ram 2500 with a 6 speed manual? Sort of Light duty, "medium duty" is silly anyway.Torque is how much power the engine can make. Horsepower is how fast it can make it. If you're buying the 2.0L thinking it's going to be a lot faster than the 3.6L, you're going to be disappointed.
"But I can tune it and make big power!" Maybe...but not for now you can't. FCA is using secure gateway encryption and the word on the street is that unless you have the key, you cannot make changes to the ECU. And only dealerships are being given the key as of now. With all the sophisticated (and problematic) new technology under the hood on the 2.0L, I expect FCA to guard those ECUs very closely.
As far as why it's automatic only, the reason is because it's easier to control emissions and pass EPA testing with automatic transmissions. That's why we've seen V8 Camaros and Challengers hindered by "skip shift" features on their manual transmissions for many years. And it's the reason we haven't seen a light duty diesel 4x4 with anything other than an automatic trans. in the last 15-20 years.
We're lucky that they even offered the 3.6L with the manual.
CAFE standards get us unnecessary horseshit like ESS. Sucks. An environmental penalty is probably paid by FCA for making so many low mpg Wranglies.the big reason for littler turbo'd engines is to meet CAFE aka mpg's. manufacturers are penalised $$$ if they fall short. since most are conservatively tuned turbos there will be a lot of room to make more power, but kiss your warranty BYE!!