“Definitely not as capable as a solid axle Jeep Wrangler”

[Jtphoto]

Understood, but a VIN (and subsequent BOM) is not required until it's scheduled, right? Mine's not scheduled. It's stuck in "being scheduled."

lol being scheduled is pretty much the same as schedule (D1). You are in D status which means your parts ARE Being sourced, scheduled and gathered for delivery to prepare for YOUR build ... that’s why you have a VIN..
Like a contractor that sources the material to build a house. They can not schedule a build date until all parts and materials are Available.

Sponsored

 

[Jtphoto]

Makes perfect sense. But to be clear: the VIN describes the required parts in an extremely general manner. For a '22 Wrangler it's basically number of doors, engine (not transmission), model, left or right drive, and weight category. And yes, I had to write that decoder when building my build sheet extractor that populates my database.

That is incorrect. Your VIN is directly attached to your COMPLETE buildsheet (and window sticker) which has EVERYTHING that goes into the build. My buildsheet for example is 9 pages long.

 

[angrynewyorker]

Why are we arguing over Jeep VINs and whatnot? No matter when the VIN is assigned it’s still superior to the Bronco.

 

[Ratbert]

That is incorrect. Your VIN is directly attached to your COMPLETE buildsheet (and window sticker) which has EVERYTHING that goes into the build. My buildsheet for example is 9 pages long.

The person I was responding to said

the VIN includes information about what parts are used to build it

The VIN includes a small subset of that information. It can be linked to significantly more information (e.g. a build sheet, a window sticker, etc.) but the VIN itself does not include that additional information. I can point you to the specs of what information is embedded in our VINs if that would help.

 

[aldo98229]

Why are we arguing over Jeep VINs and whatnot? No matter when the VIN is assigned it’s still superior to the Bronco.

Yeah. And because Jeep assigns a VIN sooner than Ford, Wrangler starts being superior to Bronco also sooner...

 

[angrynewyorker]

Yeah. And because Jeep assigns a VIN sooner than Ford, Wrangler starts being superior to Bronco also sooner...

Wrangler starts its life out superior to the Ford 4Runner, ooops, I mean Bronco, and continues on from there.

 

[SoK66]

I completely agree with that.

However, because Ford aimed Bronco squarely at Wrangler, in this particular case Jeep had to respond, and some “innovation” came out of it.

Having said that, from this point going forward, Jeep has the option to:

1. Invest in development in an effort to keep Wrangler at the forefront of the off-roading category. This is what Jeep used to do 20-30 years ago. Or...
2. Take the less expensive and lazy approach and keep Wrangler “competitive” by simply continuing to focus on comfort & convenience features, on technology gadgets handed down from Grand Cherokee —and Wagoneer. This is what Jeep has been doing for the past 10+ years

JL saw hardly any off-road innovations relative to JK. The emphasis was on making Wrangler more comfortable, more efficient, more livable day-to-day. Bronco is now making it plain obvious that Jeep has been resting on its laurels for too long.

If it makes Jeep owners any more uncomfortable, this past Saturday at Moab Easter Jeep SafariI was on Top of the World trail with an assortment of Jeeps, TJs, LJs, JKs, JLs including three 392s and one stock Bronco Badlands Sasquatch 4door. The trail is a nasty, beat up series of ledges & rocks that climbs relentlessly to the top of the rim overlooking Onion Crook. The Bronco on 35s climbed it just as easily as any of the Jeeps, including my JKUR on 37s. It was impressive.

 

[NewJLU2019]

Stuck then drowned.

Ford Bronco Can't Roll With The Tide, Gets Swallowed By The Sea (msn.com)

 

[Jtphoto]

If it makes Jeep owners any more uncomfortable, this past Saturday at Moab Easter Jeep SafariI was on Top of the World trail with an assortment of Jeeps, TJs, LJs, JKs, JLs including three 392s and one stock Bronco Badlands Sasquatch 4door. The trail is a nasty, beat up series of ledges & rocks that climbs relentlessly to the top of the rim overlooking Onion Crook. The Bronco on 35s climbed it just as easily as any of the Jeeps, including my JKUR on 37s. It was impressive.

It’s quite impressive how well a good driver, that knows what they are doing, can do. No matter what they drive.

 

[Ratbert]

Stuck then drowned.

Ford Bronco Can't Roll With The Tide, Gets Swallowed By The Sea (msn.com)

They tried to beat Jeep to the punch with their High Tide model???

 

[aldo98229]

Did that Bronco get stuck, or did the engine blow a valve out there...?

Both are equally possible. Now we will never know.

 

[NewJLU2019]

Did that Bronco get stuck, or did the engine blow a valve out there...?

Both are equally possible. Now we will never know.

Stuck on sand bar and tide came in. lol

 

[AcesandEights]

Stuck then drowned.

Ford Bronco Can't Roll With The Tide, Gets Swallowed By The Sea (msn.com)

It’s quite impressive how poorly a bad driver, that doesn't know what they are doing, can do.

 

[40Caliber]

It’s quite impressive how poorly a bad driver, that doesn't know what they are doing, can do.

guilty as charged

 

[AcesandEights]

Ditto

Sponsored