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Either black or granite going grocery shopping :) J/K

Either black or granite going grocery shopping :) J/K

Nice underbody shot.

They're not available for order yet since production doesn't start until February - March 2018 according to this site's chart http://www.jlwranglerforums.com/updated-2018-19-jl-wrangler-timeline-shows-2dr-jl-2-0l-delay-powertop-diesel-job-1-dates/

Looking at the vote count it looks like a great decision to offer two more engine options for this generation. There's plenty of interest in the two new engines which probably also means new buyers. How many of you wouldn't be considering the JL if it wasn't going to come with the 2.0L turbo or...

Good eye guys. No wonder I thought the front of the black prototype looked more aggressive. Just didn't realize why. Are we possibly going to get the high mount fenders as an option? :fingerscrossed: Definitely looks better with the fender up against the hood line. And look at all that space...

Definitely not looking to be shy in your JL! Love the really bright colors like Gecko paired with lots of contrasting black parts. :involve:

Yes but why no ESS as well? Does ESS not work with BSG, or not needed when there's BSG?

So based on the dealer screen shots it looks like ESS will only come on the Pentastar V6 and the Diesel V6 engines, but not on the 2.0L 4cyl Hurricane engine?

If not Paris in Sept, then likely Geneva in March. Geneva is a huge show too.

I think these lights when seen in full (if you imagine the same shape completing the other side of the lights we can't see in the pics) will form a bit of an X shape but better looking than the Renegade tail lights.

7 inch TFT display will be very welcome by me! These menus from the Grand Cherokee is already 3 years old. Will we see even more menus and configurability?

IMO the 4-door can climb almost everything while offering all the extra passenger/cargo space compared to the 2-door which is nimbler, more maneuverable and feels lighter on its feet.

Thanks for the enhanced look. Leg/knee room already looks much better from this angle. :like: Don't know how short the passenger is but his knee comes nowhere close to the glove box.

Well it's damned if you do damned if you don't for the engineers. If they shorten the bed for less overhang then the bed becomes less useful. If they lengthen the wheelbase for a shorter overhang, then the break over angle takes a hit.

Hey that's kinda cool. Is that a wrap or a spray? I think textured paint looks nice and rugged on the Wrangler.

I would guess (and hope) that FCA already invested too much $ into the V6 EcoDiesel to just kill it at this point. I mean it was already engineered and fitted into two big selling models. Hopefully they get the EPA satisfied soon so we can see a 2019 Wrangler with diesel engine. Killing me to...

I have That's a good start. Any forged internals?

Current 2017 Wranglers are selling for about 2-5% below invoice and 8-10% below MSRP. I doubt we'll see anything under MSRP for the JL/JLU for a while after launch. Probably be lucky to even see sticker right at launch.

I like how the fender mounted LED lights look but its a step back in practicality. The front fender lights of the TJ were moved from the fenders to the grill on the JK to avoid damage when off roading.