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  1. Jeep to launch BEV - fully electric Vehicle in 2022/2023 .

    You clearly have made up your mind and will not accept logical conversation. Yes an EV range decreases in the cold, no one is arguing that. Yes current ICE range is a drawback, no one is arguing that. Yes it is much faster to refill your gas tank than recharging, no one is arguing that. Yes...
  2. Jeep to launch BEV - fully electric Vehicle in 2022/2023 .

    Actually getting stuck in a snowstorm is better in an EV with the ability to only run the heat vs running the entire engine with an ICE just to heat the car. Yes losing the power grid stops you from charging, but it also stops gas pumps from working so unless you have your own stockpile of gas...
  3. Jeep to launch BEV - fully electric Vehicle in 2022/2023 .

    My guess is first you would need the infrastructure to make this happen, to include a supply of the replacement batteries. I don't believe there is the capacity to produce excess batteries for this purpose. Additionally without a standard battery, each vehicle would need a specific pack, making...
  4. Jeep to launch BEV - fully electric Vehicle in 2022/2023 .

    I have seen a few Volts on the road and a ton of Tesla Model 3s around here. I think there would be a demand for some cheaper vehicles, but the profit margins are not there for the manufacturer. Technology always gets introduced on the luxury vehicles and then makes its way down the line as...
  5. Jeep to launch BEV - fully electric Vehicle in 2022/2023 .

    If they can produce something at a reasonable/competitive price it will sell. I would love an EV Wrangler to drive around locally. However I can't justify $80k for a Wrangler, especially one with a 200 mile range.
  6. 2023 Refresh Intel?

    Hemi becomes the standard engine and base price drops by $10k
  7. 4XE Price Increases $1,220

    Initially the 4xe was a huge bargain with tax credit, now it is losing its appeal with each price increase. I am curious if the price increase is in response to strong demand or is due to something else
  8. Can the math work out to justify a 4xe?

    I have not seen that, but that would be great
  9. Can the math work out to justify a 4xe?

    No it would be a cost savings for me, electric is cheaper than gas where I live, I have been teleworking for over a year so most trips are short, and with the rebate the 4xe is cheaper than a comparable Rubicon. I can see that reading is difficult for you so I'll try to be understanding. It...
  10. Can the math work out to justify a 4xe?

    It amazes me that people are so terrified of electric vehicles and take time out of their day to attempt to bash them on the internet, but I guess the cult like Tesla worshippers are just as bad. Yes the initial production of an EV causes more pollution than an ICE, but unless your power is...
  11. 4xe Test Drive - 4xe limped into service bay

    I'm curious as to what the issue was. That error code could mean a lot of things and potentially has nothing to do with the 4xe components. However it doesn't inspire confidence when you can't make it five miles on a vehicle with 20 miles on the odometer.
  12. What will be the new 2022 “options” included to get us to upgrade

    I wish they could fit the 12" screen and Harmon Kardon speakers from my Ram in, but I think the only changes will be a price increase and some new colors. Maybe an updated unconnect and some additional options made standard
  13. 4xe Test Drive - 4xe limped into service bay

    Test drove a 4xe today, but it barely made it back to the dealership on its own power. The test drive started off on their off road course, which was basically a washed out dirt trail with a couple of uphill climbs. It transitioned into a residential area and eventually onto a two lane...
  14. 4XE - Worse mileage than other motors (after battery depleted)?

    Thanks for this informative and obviously well thought out post
  15. TFL Gets 19 MPG Over 250 Miles With 392 Wrangler

    What gearing? Mine with 3.92 won't come close to that above 65 mph
  16. Owners show off your new 4xe!

    The white looks really good with the 4xe blue accents
  17. 4xe issues

    We bought a Honda that was the biggest POS with non stop issues that the dealer could never reproduce and wouldn't accept my video proof, because "it has to do it while plugged in to our diagnostic tool". Multiple new GM and Ford vehicles, Jeeps, even a first model year Ram with very little trouble.
  18. 23MPG and a look at the screens

    Thanks for the info. It will be interesting to see the results as everyone starts getting their hands on them. I know my Ram gets the best mpg on those backroad 50-60 mph trips, anything above that and mpg drops.
  19. Hands on the Jeep Wrangler 4xe by TFL

    Nothing from the state of Ohio should ever be blue and yellow


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