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  1. JL Window Sticker and Build Sheet Order Tracking

    Got my 22 Willy’s for two weeks. All the happiness and smile disappeared from day one owning it. Drove it back from Tennessee to Texas the steering was a nightmare. After 3 times been to the local dealership spending 3 days there I’m totally done with Jeep now. Guys be careful and test drive...
  2. Guide: Wrangler Order, Build, Tracking and Delivery Process

    THE WAIT IS OVER! Finally picked up my Willy’s. 11-6 ordered, 1/24 delivered and 1/28 picked up. Not bad at all. These MT tires are much more aggressive than any all terrain tires I have ever owned(I think my KO2 is even not as aggressive!). They look so nice! I have one problem on my 800 miles...
  3. 2023 refresh?

    I don’t believe there will be a new model in the next 2 years. Bronco is having issues now and jeep doesn’t really care. Heck they even raise their price on a large scale just now! Jeep needs to delete the notorious manual windows sport trim and set sport s to the same price with bronco base—...
  4. JL Window Sticker and Build Sheet Order Tracking

    Your rubicon is not a 4door or automatic or Extreme Recon though. I ordered my 22 super-base 4door Willy’s on 10/21 with only automatic transmission and it comes out for $43k MSRP and I will pay $40k for it. The Bronco base is 4door, power windows, hard top only for an extra $600, automatic...
  5. JL Window Sticker and Build Sheet Order Tracking

    NO WAY! I asked a couple of dealers and they stated that waiting time is more than 6 months and were not willing to order one for me. The Bronco 4door base with automatic transmission and Sasquatch all come with $40k price tag really make my willys seems like a bad deal..
  6. Gupton roll call and updates on 2022 orders.

    Ordered on 11/6 and it is now shipped on a truck! 1/24 - 2/4 ETA. Can't wait! 22Willys no option!
  7. JL Window Sticker and Build Sheet Order Tracking

    Ohhhh My delayed order is shipped! The delay only took 5 days.. Thank you for waiting ! I can see your order has been released from the factory and was approved for shipping. Shipping arrangements have not been completed yet but it should be leaving soon! We do still have the ETA window of...
  8. JL Window Sticker and Build Sheet Order Tracking

    My order got delayed. 22 Willys no option. ETS 1/14 and now there is no ETS. Still in D1. Expected to got it at the end of January or early Feb. Sad.
  9. JL Window Sticker and Build Sheet Order Tracking

    Don’t worry guys. At the night of 1/14 I asked Jeep Chat about my Willy’s and they said that there was a system issue that they could not check the status for me. It is the first time I have ever heard this so I assume no update for days is normal.
  10. JL Window Sticker and Build Sheet Order Tracking

    Yea I know that so I expected it should enter the production today. But it’s not. So I guess it’s more like a suggesting production date and the factory must saw some schedule delays in recent days I guess
  11. JL Window Sticker and Build Sheet Order Tracking

    Oh heck. Ordered on 11/6, Willy’s with auto trans and gorilla, super basic and simple, Dealer said I’m in D1 for a long time and ETS is 1/14, Friday which is today. asked JC and got an answer of all materials collected and will enter production soon. So you see, even dealers info from the...
  12. Guide: Wrangler Order, Build, Tracking and Delivery Process

    Come on buddy we pay China workers $300 a month for 6*12 hours a week and enjoy their production for a small amount of money we earn. Why do you think we should go back to the times that most of us could not even afford a boat? Without foreign suppliers an average American's life will be 5x more...
  13. JL Window Sticker and Build Sheet Order Tracking

    Most Automatic have even better mpg than a manual now. For extreme situations like Subaru their CVT has more than 5 mpg better than their manual in the same car. I can see there will definitely be less to no manual after most vehicles going with electronics. The only real advantage a manual has...
  14. Which engine to order with Rubicon (canceling a 4xe order)

    Definitely a 2.0l turbo. That 3.6 pentastat engine is not reliable at all. It’s just fair after all these years. The 2.0 is not likely unreliable. There is just no long term data and from the existing short term data the reliability is very good with no problems at all. The 2.0l feels much much...
  15. JL Window Sticker and Build Sheet Order Tracking

    It may not be the gorilla since mine with gorilla ordered 11/6 has gathered all parts. It should be your XR package!
  16. JL Window Sticker and Build Sheet Order Tracking

    You forgot India. The most popular trick these chat use is hiring some poor guys in India pay them 1/10 of what American service get and make it a 24*7 chat. Car dealers also use such 'tech' to make their sales department functioning 24*7. Sometimes these chat 'bots' don't know much about...
  17. JL Window Sticker and Build Sheet Order Tracking

    Just got my meesage from dealer. Jeep Chat: All the parts has been gathered and will be entering the production line soon. (From 11/30/21 till now, all the same answer) Dealer: Your vehicle is in D1 status and has a shipping date of 1/14. We expected it arrive at late January or early Feb. So if...
  18. JL Window Sticker and Build Sheet Order Tracking

    Whaaaat? Really? Those Broncos are cool as hell. Even the cheap ones have power windows and hard top is only a $600 option. I build a Sasquatch(like Extrem Recon) base 4door hardtop it has power windows, big screens, 2.7l V6 ecoboost engine, 35" tires and only comes out to be $43k which is even...
  19. JL Window Sticker and Build Sheet Order Tracking

    Well third try with JC they told me again my 22 Willys parts had been recieved and would enter build shortly. So the parts are distributed randomly and one day I have my parts the other day not. I expect my willys to be build on Tuesday and Tursday each week then.
  20. JL Window Sticker and Build Sheet Order Tracking

    Well JC also make mistakes. I asked them about my 22 willys with no options this morning got an 'all parts recieved and scheduling production' response. I tried another time at evening and their response became “still waiting for parts”. Heck it looks like someone stole some of my parts today at...


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