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  1. Jeep Resale. Not what it used to be.

    At $41k sticker, you'd be looking at around $36k at 8% below invoice (what one can buy a new JL for right now... and probably around what the dealer is paying). It seems about right that a lightly used JL would transact at a discount to the $36k new value. At $33k, that would imply $3k in...
  2. I need new tires. Opinions on a couple of brands of tires.

    I've driven Cooper ATPs, KO2s and Fallen Wildpeak ATWs. The wildpeaks were by far the best tread. Substantially better wear and better traction in rain/snow. I cannot speak to mud. Noise wasn't a differentiator among the 3.
  3. Dealer Lots full of Jeeps

    Stellantis is entering contentious negotiations with the UAW. I wonder how much of their inventory build is a somewhat deliberate decision to preempt drag from a possible strike. It's what I would do. It greatly strengthens their negotiating position, even if a strike is avoided.
  4. Wrangler order discount.

    There are dealers listed on this forum which offer 6-8% below invoice right now. FYI.
  5. 48% Price Increase Since 2018

    I find their approach logical and straightforward. Increase wholesale pricing aggressively but sterilize the effects (partially) by reducing dealer margin (e.g., circumventing allocations through customer orders). The net cost to the consumer is the same (or less) when compared to Toyota and...
  6. Ecodiesel Turbo out. 17k miles.

    I don't understand this. Turbos go bad on all modern cars. Why not simply replace your turbo?
  7. Diesel vs Gas JLU

    All JLUDs will be under recall at some point. They just haven't gotten around to issuing for all the vehicles, for some reason. I will note that if you're willing to put up with the 1% risk of 2-3 months without a vehicle while they repair, it probably isn't a huge issue. Costs should be born...
  8. Diesel Emissions. A few facts with my biased opinion.

    I should add that the "solution" to our tight diesel market will likely be in the form of new, global refineries (asia-pac and middle east) which can optimize from the ground up and be built to heavy H-cracking usage. This will be particularly relevant in markets like the middle east which are...
  9. Diesel Emissions. A few facts with my biased opinion.

    Petroleum engineer here. The OP is correct. The US refining complex is built out to generate high gasoline yields. The crux of the issue is that we built out our USGC refineries for heavy coking over the past 2-3 decades. This was done to handle expected heavy crudest (Venezuela and Canada) and...
  10. TrailRecon drops the Diesel

    Has anybody seen overheating issues after an EGR disable/delete? You're cycling more heat back into the engine or cooling system (EGR cooler), which would presumably increase cooling needs. However, you're also running a lower combustion temperature.
  11. 4XE tax credit!!!!! Not able to receive it!

    Correct. All withholding is simply an estimate for 2021. How much was withheld has no bearing on your ultimate tax liability (penalties for under-withholding aside... which isn't relevant here). Example: Option A: Paid 24k in taxes Return shows 25k taxes due (before credit) Return shows...
  12. 4XE tax credit!!!!! Not able to receive it!

    Fire your accountant. The guy is an idiot. This is taxes 101. I'd be worried he was missing other items. "Non-refundable" in the context of income taxes refers to your calendar year tax liability. Certain credits (E.g. earned income tax credit) are "refundable." This means that the government...
  13. Dealers % Below Invoice on 2022 Wranglers

    I wish you the best! Please let me know your ultimate outcome, I'm interested and may be looking to purchase another Jeep in the next year or two.
  14. Dealers % Below Invoice on 2022 Wranglers

    I had a disappointing experience with south point dodge on a new purchase order about 2 months back. They wanted a deposit but were: (I) unwilling to run it as a purchase order and (ii) were unwilling to document anything relating to pricing. They really dodged on this second item. I wasn't...
  15. Next Generation Prediction

    Great clarification and an interesting add. I imagine that any "widening" of the front-end would be due to functional drivers, a new engine or power train being the most likely. In this context, I can't see them altering the design to accommodate any of their current IC offerings. And, it...
  16. Next Generation Prediction

    I believe it relates to pedestrian safety. SUV's with aggressive front profiles need that extended bumper to pop pedestrians up onto the hood. You see this with "new" designs by Ford (Bronco), INEOS (Grenadier) and others. I believe that certain high-end vehicles may be able to implement...
  17. Gupton Motors 8% under invoice! Nashville TN area.

    For the gentleman asking about credit, Gupton offered 2.7% on a 48-month a couple weeks back. We viewed this as a fair offer in the context of our (very good) credit.
  18. Potential New owner question on Wrangler highway ability.

    Wife ran a 2017 JKU as a commuter vehicle for 3 years. Road handling was perfectly fine. Never felt unsafe. Fuel mileage is what it is. The sound. Oh the sound. She needs to take a lot of work calls and the high ambient noise while on the highway made that very difficult. This would be my...
  19. Willys vs Rubicon vs 4 runner

    Yep. It's sad to see what the 4runner has become. Somehow made worse with each generation. We're the user in a 3rd gen (or 4th gen w/ V8) 4runner, I might suggest they keep it and simply juice it up a little (lift, armor, etc.). But I don't see the point in doing so on their current offering.
  20. No power after rest stop. Couldn't get to highway speed on onramp.

    I think I'm missing something here My read puts EGT in the 1000F range for an engine under load. This compares to turbo compressor effluent in the 500F range. I believe both systems run through heat exchangers and presumably load the same cooling loop. Wouldn't EGR result in greater load on...


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