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  1. Loose steering feels like it has play and drifts

    Do you really believe that a 1/4 degree to half a degree of caster can be accounted for by position welding brackets? That’s better than aircraft frame assembly. Have a look at the JL frame welds. Believe what you will, I know better and this is a waste of time.
  2. Loose steering feels like it has play and drifts

    Depending on the nature of the roads in your area the cross caster is incorrect. Cross caster should be +.25*+.5* more on one side or the other. If most of the roads that you drive on are higher in the center and lower by the shoulder then there should be more caster on the right of your...
  3. Loose steering feels like it has play and drifts

    Something very wrong with having to keep the steering wheel in the 2 o’clock position to account for the camber in the road. I’m surprised that your dash isn’t lighting up with the “service ESC” warning. The steering column has sensors that will note when the steering wheel is off center by...
  4. Loose steering feels like it has play and drifts

    No I’d doesn’t and a lot of what’s happening with these JL’s doesn’t Make sense and it’s not my intention to try to diagnose the problem that you’re having just to possibly help by discussing options. First, don’t be afraid to give the JLR caster. I have a JLU, stock height with similar mods...
  5. Loose steering feels like it has play and drifts

    The DW after all that you have done is interesting and I’m not going to leave that to the last. If the fuse pull doesn’t work I suggest that you talk to PSC. What was the caster set to when you had the alignment done?
  6. Loose steering feels like it has play and drifts

    You may have mentioned this before but is the Mopar Lift 3” or 4”? With 37” tires I’m thinking 4”?
  7. Loose steering feels like it has play and drifts

    “Can’t stop laughing”... Not that I’m happy to see you having to deal with this, wen’t through it myself, so I can empathize. But.. this may be the best the best description of what I think of as an “FCA Thing”.
  8. Loose steering feels like it has play and drifts

    As I said before thats handling not steering. If we’re talking about rack and pinion vs gear box pitman arm drag link systems, then yes there will be a difference. But neither should have looseness or a dead spot in the steering system, how much one has to turn the steering wheel to get a...
  9. Loose steering feels like it has play and drifts

    You’re pretty much right on. 1 &2 : Agree. I did have the TSB update done to my 2018 JLU and while it made the steering lighter it did nothing for the dead spot. 3 & 4: Agree. Point 4 kind of mitigates point 3 but all in all that’s splitting hairs. For tracking get adjustable LCA’s and set...
  10. Loose steering feels like it has play and drifts

    Generally speaking loose steering has little if anything to do with a solid axle vs IFS setup. Handling and ride yes, steering no, generally speaking. What I’m referring to is the “dead spot” in the Jeep JL steering system. While it is similar in away to the looseness of a worn steering box...
  11. Loose steering feels like it has play and drifts

    GOT IT! We’re on the same page! So would that make FCA an oxymoron?!?!?
  12. Loose steering feels like it has play and drifts

    I’m going to try to reply to this in a manner that everyone would consider as being respectful because in all sincerity no disrespect is intended... I guess that some Jeep owners are OK with loose steering and for what seem to be valid reasons to them will accept loose steering in a Jeep, and I...
  13. Alignment Question / Results

    Yes looking forward to getting rid of the dead spot. I did have it in 4wd after the alignment, no vibration. Used to manage a H.D. Frame & Alignment shop in my earlier years. Would modify tandem axle H.D. Trucks for off road work. Barge would take them to the location and they would make...
  14. Alignment Question / Results

    There in lies the challenge caster and pinion angle. Offroad vs Onroad, and getting the best balance. My alignment was done by a shop that is very familiar with achieving the balance and the pinion angle was checked at 7*+ caster. There is no driveline shake, at all, I also checked for that...
  15. Alignment Question / Results

    6.5 - 7 degrees on a Jeep is fine. Cross caster is going to affect pull more than anything else. I’m running mine at 7*+L and 7.25*+R, compensates for the crown on a road. Tracks true like a dream and it’s amazing on turns and corners. Check the tire pressure side to side as well. No...
  16. Alignment Question / Results

    The caster on the right is -1* On the right. This seems to be -cross caster on the wrong side. On these specs the Specified range is no difference from left - right. I have seen other specs that show a cross caster Specified Range of .5*. Regardless I would suggest that you try a .5*...
  17. Aftermarket Steering Damper?

    This is absolutely correct! I have replaced all the front end linkage on my JLU one item at a time. The only item I haven’t replaced are the UCA. I have a FOX Steering Damper with a relocation kit and it did make a difference. But the biggest difference with respect to sensitive steering...


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