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  1. SNEAKY: 2023 Wrangler grille previewed by 20th Anniversary Rubicon Concept??

    Of the three..IMHO the middle (concept 1) is the worst one. In the comparison view is looks cheap and much less defined.

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  3. Captions please...

    Clever indeed 😉

  4. Dealers getting caught and fined. Anyone hear of this before?

    Doc fee is also a made up profit generator...it is fully negotiable to point of it being waived. It is just that since all dealers have some form of it becomes sort of a defacto standard and then lots of people don't fight it.

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    That would be sad for us

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    I was hoping by my birthday 5/5 but don't look good 😕 😝

  7. Ask Ratbert

    I wish that was true for my case...I ordered on 11/20 (evening) and had vin next day. My build is a Willys sport sarge green soft top stick shift with only A/C which includes the larger radio, and tow pkg. However, I did add some now seemingly silly things - grab handles, door sills, and cargo...

  8. Up to 7% below invoice on Jeeps, 6% on Ram trucks

    Just to clarify...ALL doc and admin fees are purely made up add on costs...direct profit. The only "legal" part of it is that dealerships have to "charge" the same to each customer...meaning they can't fleece me for more of a doc fee even if I was oblivious and willing to pay it. Any dealer, at...

  9. Up to 7% below invoice on Jeeps, 6% on Ram trucks

    Agreed on that, it is not exactly 7% off when 1k is added back in 😇

  10. Please Help! Can I return A car Less then 24 hours?

    Or maybe...dad......as in grandfather?

  11. JL Window Sticker and Build Sheet Order Tracking

    Lucky?! That's Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory type luck 😂

  12. JL Window Sticker and Build Sheet Order Tracking

    Yep 😥

  13. Jeep Welcome Email; did you receive one or not?

    Ordered 11/20 had vin right away. No email or lucky coupons from jeep...and no jeep either. I still in D status. At this point I would love a coupon and then my jeep...in that order. 😁

  14. Crowdsourcing to figure out what months our VINs were created

    Ordered 11/20 Vin 122043

  15. 22 wrangler order date, vin and actual deliveries.

    I think I won't be surprised if in the near future Jeep Chat goes poof! and just disappears...would be no love lost from me 😝

  16. 22 wrangler order date, vin and actual deliveries.

    Good lord, I know that's right! I made the mistake earlier on going out to Jeep Chat as part of waiting regime and the result?...I got so pissed at the silly a** responses that I can't even remember the name of the bot person I chatted with 😮😂😤

  17. 22 wrangler order date, vin and actual deliveries.

    Unfortunately yes...lol...the waiting takes a toll and then hearing about other people's horror stories is certainly awful for them but potentially troubling for us. I'm gonna just try and focus on all the success stories and maybe drink more 😂

  18. 22 wrangler order date, vin and actual deliveries.

    Yep! 11/20

  19. 22 wrangler order date, vin and actual deliveries.

    Yes...ordered on 11/20 2Dr willys sport stick with only AC and tow package added. Been in D except was in C once too

  20. 22 wrangler order date, vin and actual deliveries.

    That would kinda mean you could potentially never get your jeep...can't be right


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