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  1. Instrument Panel Color changed for 2023?

    I believe the dash color has to do with the 2.0T v 3.6L. However I agree it was one of the first things I noticed when I got my new jeep and instantly thought this looks ridiculous and why doesn’t it match the red trim of the Rubicon. Even if it’s like that for the engines on other trims the...
  2. The Important of Painted Fender Flares on Stock Jeep

    The real answer is painted fenders and black hardtop. I find it surprising how few Jeeps, at least that I see, and I live in a very wrangler heavy area, have that combo. I usually see black and black or both painted. But rarely see the painted flares with black roof unless it’s a rental vehicle...
  3. SARGE GREEN Wrangler JL Club

    Traded in my sting gray 2019 Rubicon for this 2023 Sarge Green Rubicon today! I’ve always wanted a green car, 6 vehicles later I’ve finally got a green one!
  4. Bestop Sunrider Top

    no. Without the hardtop the Bestop Sunrider won’t even attach properly. It’s not a shade even. It fully replaces the two front freedom panels full time. It’s made from the same material a factory softop or premium softop is. It’s essentially like having the soft top over the front seats and the...
  5. Bumper closeout panel/cover?

    Hank you!!!
  6. Best configuration for basic comforts

    I will say this, at this point I'd buy the advance safety group just for the Advance Cruise Control. You can activate either the advance cruise control, or normal cruise control, it's two seperate controls. I was on the fence too about that option on my wrangler and now after having it for 3.5...
  7. Bumper closeout panel/cover?

    Anyone know what part number this closeout panel is for a 2019 JL with steel bumper? I’m looking for the close out panel that covers where the winch fairlead would go. I removed my winch to return my car back to factory as my 23 JLUR arrives 2nd week of October but for the life of me can’t find...
  8. Flip Top for Hard Top

    It’s the same as the 4 door FYI. The one from the factory order is the same one you buy directly from Bestop. Would recommend the thicker material if you buy one, worth the extra cost. I put one on my 4 door JL last year and it’s the best addition to my jeep I’ve done
  9. What are your other rides?

    My other three rides a 2010 Hummer H3 Alpha, a 2003 Hummer H1 HMCS and a Cessna 182
  10. Thoughts on Advanced Safety Group

    I find it to be great. I almost didn’t buy it but glad I did. The ACC alone made it worth it for me. Someone compared their Subaru functionality of the acc above but it appears to work different in the Jeep. You set the speed and the distance you want it to maintain, once it gets to that...
  11. Xtreme Recon package now available on 2.0T and 3.6L eTorque models!

    The site lags behind significantly. The high-tide edition and beach edition aren’t up yet, and the site also isn’t reflecting the price increases in from the Jan 17th order guide. I wouldn’t expect it to be updated soon, though I hope to be proven wrong on that!
  12. Sky one touch toof

    Just to chime in with option 3. Hardtop and add the Bestop Sunrider flip top for hardtop. Which can now be bought as an option on the new jeep. You can easily flip open the front portion, where the two front panels would be, at any time which for most seems to be perfect if you don’t need the...
  13. Who plans to own it for the long haul?

    Not me. I do have two older vehicles that I absolutely love, but they are not daily drivers (a 2003 and a 2010) . My 2019 JLUR is my daily driver, and after my previous daily vehicle I told myself never again will I daily drive a vehicle that is not fully covered in a bumper to bumper warranty...
  14. Rubicon steel bumper weight

    Also bear in mind on the wrangler at least, not sure if it's different for the gladiator. The steel bumper group receives stiffer springs in the suspension than the plastic bumper. So if you swap a plastic out for a steel bumper you will more than likely notice some droop since you also do not...
  15. 3.6 vs 2.0 turbo?? Which is better??

    The funniest thing to me is back when the 2.0T was the one with E-Torque everyone was saying "V6 because it doesn't have Etorque, too complex" Now that the 3.6 is the one with Etorque everyone is saying "V6 and it has e torque" seems to me that everyone just says V6 because it's a V6 and they...
  16. Vented seats for 2022?

    If we had vented, or cooled seats I'd happily pay for that option. Living in FL that's something I greatly envy other vehicles for having. I remember a while back looking into this I read something that jeep said there was no way to vent the seats and retain the interior waterproofing of the...
  17. Spare Tire Cover OR Uncovered

    you don’t cover the other 4 wheels of your truck and they go fine without sun damage or damage from the elements, so why do you need to cover the spare
  18. What did you do TO your Jeep JL today?

    Installed the Bestop Sunrider for Hardtop on mine!
  19. Some colors cancelled?

    That earl color looks amazing. I'm waiting for the "22 orders to open up and was going to do Sarge, but if the earl is the same as that concept vehicle posted above I may have to reconsider!
  20. Latest 2021 Jeep Wrangler JL and JLU Order Guides

    if It’s replacing and not in addition it’s not a good deal at all to order.The bestop sunrider retails for 850 for the twill, get the forum discount even less. Seems like Jeep is charging more for it, which is fine if someone wants the simplicity of it all arriving together, but if it’s...


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