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I rented a JL wrangler with a 2" lift and 37 over the weekend, expecting to be sold on a 2020 Rubicon plug in hybrid.. but it was pretty rough to drive on the highway. Not sure how much of that was due to the lift, and I will definitely test drive a Rubicon plug in, but if it's similar, I'm...

I'm a huge fan of the Rivian, it is just out of my price range - although not really much above a loaded Rubicon, as has been pointed out. It will be a consideration for me in the future. I'm considering doing a plug in hybrid wrangler, and maybe five years from now, picking up a used Rivian...

Alex on Autos review of the Pacifica, which I assume has a fairly similar PHEV powertrain, points out that with incentives, it actually comes out around the same price roughly or even less expensive than the normal vehicle.. so as long as those incentives work for you, it might not be any/much...

I'm looking forward to this too... short commute and very interested in electric torque, which I've read on the Pacifica is pretty good.

My feeling is that the plug in hybrid is a good intermediate term solution, but it retains all the negatives of both powertrains - the electric isn't as powerful as a full electric but you retain the complexity and maintenance of the normal combustion engine... still, they will manage to fit 30+...

The Rivian R1S/R1T, though a different platform basically, is a pretty good demonstration in my eyes of what an electric Wrangler drivetrain will be like - four independent motors. They have a "tank" mode that allows the truck to pivot around, as I understand it.