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  1. Bought NOT Built

    You guys really gripe about how the 2 door rides? Lmao!! Sissies.
  2. Arizona JL Owners - summer heat getting your engine temps up?

    I have the 2.0 turbo. Seen my coolant temp go as high as 227. Then it cools right back down to 208 when it is hot out. Trans temps high as 210, oil temps 220's. But again, off my ORP. Coolant temps Normally runs down the highway at 195-205 or so. Part of their emissions criteria to have the...
  3. ARIZONA - Short Notice Trail Run

    I remember the days when Jeeps had 2 Jerry can mounts on the back, one on each side of the spare, and a water can on the passenger side up front by the cowl. damn I’m old.... Well, you guys had nothing to worry about. After a filling meal eating your trip leader and a little bit of rest, I’m...
  4. ARIZONA - Short Notice Trail Run

    LOL! NP sputternutz. Cut my teeth off roading in a manual. Ran them for 25 years before finally making the switch to auto in 2003. Trip leading isn’t just about being out in front, it’s more about safety first, experience, guidance, efficiency of the group and ensuring everyone is having the...
  5. ARIZONA - Short Notice Trail Run

    Perspective. Can anyone who went imagine running that trail alone, not knowing what you were getting yourself into? Or maybe running it in winter and having it snow, even rain, sliding around on that ledge? I do allot of exploring out there on the trails by myself, and it was somewhat...
  6. ARIZONA - Short Notice Trail Run

    “All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost; The old that is strong does not wither, Deep roots are not reached by the frost. From the ashes a fire shall be woken, A light from the shadows shall spring; Renewed shall be blade that was broken, The crownless again shall...
  7. ARIZONA - Short Notice Trail Run

    I think from now on when I wheel with someone that has a standard transmission, I’ll put them up front. They don’t have a torque converter like the autos do, so their gear ratio is direct vs being buffered by a torque converter, consequentlyi their Jeep moves a little faster on the trail. Happy...
  8. ARIZONA - Short Notice Trail Run

    Just got back from the run and showered. 12 hours on the trail and 100 miles off road. Went real good until we got to the Verde River. We had started late, and it looked like we were gonna have to go back via Bloody Basin road, and still not get back to pavement until 9 PM or later. Right...
  9. ARIZONA - Short Notice Trail Run

    It's ok. You can wear your tinkerbells... We promise not to tease you...
  10. ARIZONA - Short Notice Trail Run

    To be clear, we are meeting at the new River shell/subway at 9 AM tomorrow morning I expect everyone that is reading this to be there with bells on!! Hahaha!!
  11. ARIZONA - Short Notice Trail Run

    Aannnddd... I can’t see myself making it to work on Monday... Lmao!!
  12. ARIZONA - Short Notice Trail Run

    Sign up? I think there’s talk of appointing you trip leader!!
  13. ARIZONA - Short Notice Trail Run

    Event added this AM.
  14. ARIZONA - Short Notice Trail Run

    Yes!! Full disclosure: To be clear, the route isn’t “completely known”... But fun will be had!
  15. ARIZONA - Short Notice Trail Run

    We will meet at the New River gas station/Subway. What do you guys think? 9 am?
  16. ARIZONA - Short Notice Trail Run

    Yeah. That’s when we’re going, we’re working it out so you can go with. It’s like we’re admitting we wanna wheel with you! Don’t you feel special? LMAO!! Ok everyone, if your up for a really long trail ride that’ll take the better part of a day, post up so we can get a head count. So far...
  17. ARIZONA - Short Notice Trail Run

    All you guys with the modified jeeps are making me want to modify mine. Please stop now before I cannot control myself Looks good, sputternutz!!
  18. ARIZONA - Short Notice Trail Run

    OK Sunday early morning? I’ll have to miss church, but I will pray on the trail. Now who’s going to pick up my labor tab when someone breaks out there in the middle of BFE and we don’t make it back before work on Monday?
  19. ARIZONA - Short Notice Trail Run

    4xnaz, Sounds great... except it has to happen early Saturday for me. Can't you go early Saturday morning? L6A, let's do this minus the camping part. What do you say? I mean if we have to camp or something because something happens it's all good ill be prepared for it. Anybody else wanna...
  20. ARIZONA - Short Notice Trail Run

    I dunno about the camping part...but I do plan to blast into 7 springs from new river, through bloody basin like a bat outta hell, down to the hot springs, and back out through Orme/Dugas. Only way I’ll camp is if I run over on time. Camping this time of year has to happen at 6k ft or above...


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