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Hi JD - what do you mean by "don't see the point since they both bolt onto body"? Don't many effective/hardcore sliders still just bolt on around the pinch seam? Looking for the mix of true slider protection, and a bit of a step. (the premium mopar rail was actually enough, but based on those...

OOOooofff. Punch in the gut. Sorry you had to have that experience! Scratched sliders is what it's all about, but that compression into the body panel is not cool. Also now feeling ripped off on these stupidly expensive 'premium rock rails'. I want to be able to drop the rail on a rock and...

Just curious why you think they are worthless for actual rock sliding (supporting weight of vehicle)? I installed these as well - definitely a nice little improvement from standard rubi rails. That said - I was also wrenching on them with my feet/hands to see how sturdy they would be, and did...

I'm seeing in the Wrangler JL owner's manual that the max roof load is actually only 100lbs (including crossbars, which takes up something like ~20lbs) leaving only ~80lbs for gear. Are you seeing the 150lbs recommendation elsewhere? Owner's manual PDF from JL forum...