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I have a 2020 JLUR with automatic and it has hill descent control.

Our 2020 JLUR had, in the first 6,000 miles, replacement of the fuse block, two computers, and a rear axle for the sensor problem.

I have been on all of the SW Colorado trails except Poughkeepsie gulch in a stock Xterra, a stock 4Runner, and a stock 2dr JK and never had a problem on any of them. I have seen people drive the Alpine Loop in a Subaru (although probably not without scraping).

We have a 2020 Rubicon. At 5,000 miles it has had two computers replaced as well as the rear axle replaced. Not a good experience for a $50,000+ vehicle.

I have a Gaia Premium membership but mostly only use it for the National Geograpic maps. Otherwise I use the android app US Topo Maps Pro. It had a one time fee of about $10 and has about 20 map sources and includes overlays like the weather. I have been using it for about 7 years with only the...

An 8 inch wheel is really 9 inches between the edges so there is another 1/2 inch on each side of the center.

It looks to me like an 8 inch wheel with a +12 offset would be about a 4.97 inch backspace, not 4.4.

We have pulled a 2000+ lb. trailer with a 300 lb. tongue weight for thousands of miles with the standard four bolts securing the hitch and never had a problem.

If you are looking for the smoother road driving vehicle then the Sahara is what you want. Some of the reasons for the ride difference are that the suspensions are not the same. Also the Rubicon tires are an inch larger in diameter and an inch larger in width, both of which make them heavier and...

I don't know what part of Colorado you are wanting to travel in, but we have spent many Septembers in southwest Colorado. The absolute best fall colors are Kebler / Ohio passes and Grand Mesa. However for Jeep trails I think that the west side of Ophir and Owl Creek (both of which are easy) have...

Ok. Thanks for the info.

I am considering LOD rock sliders and Metalcloak skids for a JLUR. I am wondering if there are any installation problems with this combination caused by using the same mounting points or overlapping. Does anybody have this combination on their JLU ?

If you're going to get a Tab 320S then you should get the Boondock edition for backroading. https://www.tomscamperland.com/2020-Nu-Camp-T%40B-TAB-320S-Boondock-Lite--Surprise-Mesa-Phoenix-AZ/6636695

My jeep order went through today with the standard wheels. :like:

I think that someone overestimated the demand for black wheels and they have been accumulating for two years now. So the boss said let's get this supply cut down some by making everyone order them. I also think that it is ridiculous for the Rubicon standard wheels and the optional black wheels...

The dealer called me Thursday also when building my order. He said that all Rubicons require the $995 wheels even on sold orders. I like the standard better so I guess I'll wait it out a few weeks and see.

My dealer just told me yesterday that they could only order Rubicons right now with the black wheel option, not with the standard wheels.

I'm in the same boat. I asked Dillon in Idaho for a quote and was told that they can't price one because I want a 3.6 and automatic.

I currently have a wrangler. My last vehicle was a 2016 4runner and my previous vehicle was a 2011 Xterra Pro 4x. The 4runner is by far the least capable offroad of my three vehicles. Too big, too bulky, too much overhang front and rear, etc. And it didn't hold up at all on backroads. I wouldn't...

We had a little guy mini max rough rider, the offroad package, (our 8th RV) to pull with our Wrangler. The quality control was non-existant. It was a piece of sh*t. We took it back to the dealer in 3 days and changed it for a nucamp Tab 320. The mini max fridge wouldn't cool below 45 degrees...