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If the engine start and won't turn off until you turn engine off mean you are in step 1 of form. It is normal

I found it only the rubicon has it.

Yes got the latest update. I got from dealer no fix for the moment. To me that not very acceptable. I have not been able to use electricity since February lol. What is the point of a EV at this point 😞. My collant heater bad too, so that why im still in form in summer month. Still waiting for...

Yeah trust me got lots of experience with form for the last 2 winter. My problem and reason why I'm always in form is the cold temperatures ( live in Canada very cold winter in Alberta). Even after a fresh oil change, the cold cause my engine to start due to the extreme cold, then by time I'm at...

Mine is currently on sale for 120$ CAD if you are in canada 😀. I got the deform for next winter if I still have it. It it the oem one from jeep. I don't remember the mopar number for it.

HI I assume it is fuel dilution, but I think the real problem is an software update that think it is fuel dilution as I had no issue the first winter.

That why I wonder about the 2.0 turbo. My previous one was the regular V6 and never had oil issue with that one. That why I'm like nervous about the 2.0 engine. I do short distance 10 km ( 6.2 mile ) to work and back Monday to Friday. Everywhere I go in my small town is less then that. That why...

Yeah something is wrong and jeep has no fix for my issues. I do have the grill cover at the front and when in in FORM, after a week and less then 500 km it ask me to change the oil..... that main reason I want to get a regular wrangler. Did not had issue with my oil last winter. I got a few...

The 99 MPG is accurate if you are not moving. The 99 is the max level it can show. Basically if you don't move you are doing 99+ MPG as it will take 99+ Gallon to make 1 mile if you don't move :D

So I currently have a 2021 Jeep Wrangler 4xe. I have a LOTS of issue with FORM (Fuel and Oil refresh mode) due to the oil dilusion. I plan to possibly upgrade to a regular 2024 Sahara. Problem, it only come with the 2.0 turbo in the Sahara trim. My question is, do I expect any more issue with...

So the sahara don't have that suspension so I assume it will tow max 3500 like the regular JL? I think from what I'm reading only the 4xe and rubicon will have the full float.

Hi I know the new wrangler will have better towing capacity. Is there a difference between the 2.0 turbo and the v6 engine? Will it be the same 5000 pound towing capacity? Thanks

Last year on my 2021 4xe. Im always in form from November to April also.

I escape form, but with my short driving distance, come right back. So no point to clear form for me. Im always in form from nov to april, but still check my annual average fuel. So form is not that bad when you calculate your entire years average.

Maybe your 12v battery is dying?

There is a bug currently. My oil goes to 0 in less then 2 week when in form. My oil when to 0% 6x time this winter so far. No fix yet. https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/forum/threads/new-issue-oil-life-to-0-in-a-very-short-period.105097/

Whene did you do the last update? Any of those where done? TSB 18-051-22 REV.B; TSB 08-056-22 REV.A; TSB 08-054-22 REV. B; TSB 08-55-22 REV.B. What years?

This the latest fix I got for my oil life. 3 week so far good. TSB 18-051-22 REV.B; TSB 08-056-22 REV.A; TSB 08-054-22 REV. B; TSB 08-55-22 REV.B.

Yeah i do 6 mile to work. Everywhere i go in my small town is max 10 min drive. So that why I can never clear form unless you drive out of town. But still my average is awsome. I can drive multiple month in the summer without refueling. As long as your average yearly fuel is less then a regular...

Agree. The 4xe is not perfect but still my average fuel mileage even with form half the year is great for a jeep.