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I joined for the same reason you did. I’m a Jeep fan and was excited about the new model. Now that I see the direction the new Jeep has taken, I’m just extremely disappointed. The new JL is awful. Not just my opinion either. I know most members of this forum are still drinking the kool aid in...

Canceling is the smartest thing you could’ve done. Buy anything else and get quality and reliability. When I ordered my ‘17 Recon it took 40 days from order to delivery. No issues. No scrambling for minor fixes to major safety and reliability issues. No price gouging. No BS. I paid $43k otd for...

Dynatrac just released the new JL ProRock 44 with JK internals. That would be a great fix for your stock front.

Dynatrac just released its new ProRock 44 and they got rid of the ridiculous front axle disconnect as well as fill the axle with JK parts. No surprise there. The experts have spoken.

I’m not seeing any similarities here besides the wheel being on the left side.

I’m here for the same exact two reasons you are here. I love Jeeps and I hope I’m wrong about many of the JLs design choices.

I envy your fab skills. Yes this ZF transmission has had problems in many other vehicles since it’s inception. Most notably in the newest Cherokee which caused several production delays, recalls, firmware flashes, and many bad reviews even by paid magazines. I remember an article in motor trend...

Absolutely agree. Lighter, stronger, cheaper. You might be able to choose two but not all three. They’ve already chose lighter and by going with an existing core design it’s my guess they also chose cheaper.

I honestly hope I’m wrong too. I hope the new axles can handle 37s off the showroom floor. I highly doubt that’s the case but I hope Jeep made a good decision with regards to the running gear. My senses tell me they are appealing to a different crowd this time around and it’s not the hard core...

Weaker axles than the ‘17 sport? Possibly. Weaker axles than the JL sport? Definitely not

My ‘17 Recon. Lol. My statement indicates what it would take for me to buy a JL and be happy with it. Those items I listed are my biggest gripes about the new model. I don’t completely hate the JL by any means but I am scratching my head about many of the design directions that Fiat Chrysler...

Axles to replace the Colorado axles. A better transmission to replace the ZF nightmare. Some sort of complete dash restyle kit to make it not look like a Fiat 500 Pop. Fenders, bumpers, and a grill that moves the turn signals back to where they should be so you can swap fenders.

How was that debunked? You have an M220 going into the new JL. A wider version of an axle that was in the Colorado. While GGA keeps making up “facts” you guys move right past the info we do have. I think I’m done with this. You guys keep acting like 14 year olds and high fiving each other about...

It is when paired to numerically low gearing and the 3.8. With my 4.10s and the 3.6 it’s right at home pushing 35s with ease.

I would very much hope so. They have tried for at least three years now with no success. I think they are overly optimistic and didn’t want to R&D an all new trans.

Wrong again, no surprise there. I ordered mine with a manual transmission. Keep assuming and putting words in my mouth. It’s working great so far.

You’ll also find more than enough people getting butt hurt and defensive, kinda like you do, often about things they do know about yet decide to ignore. The ZF transmission had several recalls and many were replaced under warranty only to exhibit the same problems. Multiple software updates and...

Look up ZF 8 speed or Chrysler ZF transmission problems. You’ll find more dump than you can handle. I’m sure the others will have info on how this will be a different ZF transmission in the JL too.

Keep saying it out loud and it’ll become true in your reality. It’s ok. I’m sure there were dozens of YJ owners saying the same thing as you. Believe in yourself and the Dana 35 will be a strong axle that no one will ever hate. Believe in yourself and the JL will be stronger and more capable off...