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18s possibly, in no way shape of form run a rim larger than that on a wrangler.

Even a regular 3.5" lift should get aftermarket driveshafts due to the geometry changes in your angles, and if you're running 35s or bigger you'll need re-gearing, and should also install new axle shafts if you want your axle to survive with a heavy gas foot. All too often I see people wanting a...

AEV lifts and parts are junk. If you want a quality lift and suspension upgrade, look at metalcloak or teraflex.

Due to the fact they have side-stepped answering that question twice now, it's sadly become very obvious that they do not own this jeep themselves.

That is impressive! I wonder how the ride quality is though on the stock suspension running those? Compared to an actual lift kit.

Since Jeep introduced so many axle variations this time around, instead of a common rear (D44) between all trims, I really am just waiting for someone to do a strength analysis between the Dana Solid Rear Axle (D35?) vs the Dana 44 with limited slip. Plus doesn't the Rubicon have a wider stance...

I feel the same way, only thing holding me up is I'm waiting for JLs to hit the lots so dealers will be even more likely to play ball with their JKs :rock:

It is, look in the first pic, upper left. You can see the stitching.

The real question I have is, will I be able to get into a 4-door Wrangler with the diesel for under $40k (actual price, not MSRP) in 2019? If it's not available in the Sport or Sport S, I'm guessing the answer is no :(

That's my biggest fear, and what mind end up driving me to a Sport S with the 3.6L after waiting all these years for a diesel :(

Stretch it to 4-doors too :cwl:

Assuming you put on aftermarket fenders, will the Sport be able to handle 35" tires with no lift? I'm trying to figure out just how different the factory suspension will be from the Sahara/Rubicon models.

The Rubi transfer case is way overkill for 99% of jeep owners. Most are just looking to make their jeep look good, not beat it to hell in the rocks out west.

That's my plan too! I don't think the JL really offers anything additional at the base Sport model over the JK, except a bigger price tag. And at least with a JK, the pricing is better and the last model year is the most refined, compared to a first year JL.

Except if you buy a sport, and right off the bat build and swap in D44 housings that are more robust than the Rubi D44s.... The price difference between the sport and rubicon is easily enough to build a nice set of axles, the cost of all other lift components will remain the same whether it's a...

Invoice = MSRP? Because I would never pay anywhere near MSRP for a vehicle. A quick tally tells me a similarly configured JL would be: Sport S -- $33,695 ($2,600 more than 2017 JK) Auto transmission -- $2000 Hard top -- $1000 Delivery charge - $1195 So I think I'd be looking at $37,890 before...

Right now I've got a 2018 JK Unlimited Sport S on the hook for $30.8k with no haggling. Includes the Sport S package, auto-trans, and hard top. MSRP is $35,380. I'm wondering how much an equivalently equipped JL Sport Unlimited will cost? On a JK the Sport S package runs $3200, the hardtop is...

So is buying a JK Unlimited now, a better long-term investment than bitcoin? :cwl:

I'm still looking around to see if any base price numbers have been listed at all for the new JLs? Right now the diesel is a $4300 option in the Ram 1500.

Except that then Jeep would have even higher profit margins on something that costs less to produce, so makes sense to me!