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I'd call it butterscotch.

Actually, a JKU has a lower fatality rate than the Ram 1500. Average fatality rate per million vehicles in America is 30. The JKU is 27. The JK is 35. The Ram 1500 is anywhere from 29 for the 2wd Quad cab to 55 for the 4wd Quad cab with short bed. The stats only go back to 2002. The Jeep...

He was responding to one of your posts. Excuse those of us that don't live on JL forums.

I may be the one that stated backup cameras are mandatory for 2018. The law doesn't kick in until May 1, 2018. Isn't that when the JK runs to? https://www.autotrader.com/car-news/new-backup-camera-rule-cameras-will-be-mandatory-by-2018-223739

Is there a reason all the Sahara pix watermarks are where you can't see the underside to compare with the Rubicon?

If you look up the difference in fatalities stats between a 2 and 4 door Wrangler you might not want a 2 door as a daily driver.

I'm guessing you aren't old enough to remember when car makers fought against integrated shoulder and lab belts.

How? They are in the seat bolsters.

But the JL shell pix leaks look to have the lines of that hood.

Side airbags are federally mandated starting in 2018. So, yes the 2018 JK will have them.

It looks to me that the spare tire is lower or rear window is higher. Is Jeep addressing the poor rear visibility? EDIT- Just saw the rear end thread and in those pix it does not look like the spare is lower.

Correct, but the a 5 time larger sample inexperienced teens influence on the numbers are going to show more.

With a 5 fold increase in sales chances are high that would include 5 times as many teens driving them.

I came across this on the 2017 Renegade's structural elements and would expect similar implementation for the JL. They discuss the importance of the hinge pillars in the small offset crash test. That may explain the hinge change...

That movement is far more a product of the other cars being designed for the new tests/standards during their refresh/new model. I expect the same kind of improvement with the JL. I would expect the 2011 numbers to be more accurate since there was nearly 5 times as many sold than the 2008(517K...

Where would I find more details on this?

With more thought to that line possibly meaning the extra width below is for more protection, the beams shown on the Safari concept would fit in that space.

I'm kind of hoping the line down the side means there is extra width below that to accommodate new bracing/beams going down the side. For those that don't know it the iihs side impact sled is a mock up of the front of a Ford 150's measurements and weighs the same as an F150 since that is the...