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  1. Rubicon vs raptor

    The 20k markup may have been valid a year or two ago but that is simply no longer the case if you take a minute to call around. There are several dealers advertising that they have raptors for msrp and many dealers have them in stock. Several on the raptor forums are reporting sales for 1-2k...
  2. Where has AEV been with JL Wrangler parts?

    Anybody have any insight on AEVā€™s timeline of releasing JL parts? They seem oddly absent from rolling out products.
  3. Dealers in the Metro Detroit Area

    Waiting on the scrambler to debut before plunking down the coin
  4. CRV VS JL?

    Itā€™s also superior for two homeless guys turning it into a borrowed F-shack and leaving a giant steaming pile of tightly coiled regretful purchase decisions on the seat
  5. Whats your dream exhaust? Please input!

    My last Jk had a high tuck cat back that terminated just in front of the rear axle. I wouldnā€™t have it any other way
  6. What other vehicles are you cross shopping? $5-6k increase causing second thoughts on JLU

    My current list goes something like this: Truck/SUV: 1. Ford raptor/f150/F250 2. Jeep SRT8 Car: 1. Porsche 911 2. Corvette 3. Mustang/Camaro 4. BMW 550xi 5. Wrx/sti There are so many good options at the $50k mark. Sure, some cars might have to be used to stay on budget but Iā€™m having...
  7. Mopar Steel bumpers vs Aftermarket

    The paint finish when I got it was shit. Before I even mounted it I sprayed the entire bumper with a bed liner type of finish which held up well in the 2-3 years I had it. The original factory paint finish was so bad that the bumper, though never being installed before, was showing rust from...
  8. Cloth Seat Photos?

    Well if you heard one person say it than it must be true of all people from the state. Why cant we all be as smart as surfers...from California?
  9. Mopar Steel bumpers vs Aftermarket

    On my JK I got a Mopar steel offroad bumper that was 1/4" steel that was a welded unit. Was actually quite nice and I was able to find it in an airplane hanger for $150 because it was missing the mounting bolts.
  10. Active Noise Control (Cancellation) feature comes to Jeep Wrangler JL

    Wonā€™t 35ā€ mud terrain tires do the same thing ?
  11. Dealers in the Metro Detroit Area

    Many many many people will go to Szott M59 Jeep. If you walk in there and are shopping Jeeps theyll likely point you to Brian Velkey who is a Jeeper himself and goes on many of the trail rides. The service department is more than competent with installing aftermarket parts. Ive purchased...
  12. 2018 Jeep Wrangler Price MSRP, 2.0L Turbo MPG, Colors Previews Shown in JL Internal Info Sheet

    This is what I was nervous about. Im thinking with options from the factory, a diesel, and then all the aftermarket goodies ($5-10k) we're looking at a $55k+ Wrangler. As much as Ive loved my Wranglers in the past I cant help but thinking at that price point a Raptor is looking like a much...
  13. Manual vs Automatic

    I donā€™t think many of us dropping 50k on a fun car are too worried about gas price fluctuations
  14. Manual vs Automatic

    I think there is an unusually high rate of manual transmissions in Wrangler in comparison to many other vehicle models and dont see one really offering more or less in the way of resale. I sold 2 Wranglers back to the dealership when buying new cars and, in general, the resale value of...
  15. Diesel for 4 door only?

    There has been quite a few posts and leaked internal documents indicating the diesel will only be offered in 4 door variants.
  16. Newb needing some answers.

    On my jkur I had 35s on a 2ā€ ome lift and it would rub on the stock fenders when flexed. I remember there were guys saying you could run 35s with no lift and that probably true if the suspension never articulated greatly. On my jkur I ended up first with bushwhacked flat fenders and then some...
  17. Future JL owners - what mods / modifications do you foresee/planning (so far)?

    I dont like waffles that much but thats pretty catchy. On my '12 jkur I had to install a power inverter to get the waffle maker to work. I think it was a 1000 watt inverter which was so damn useful.
  18. Future JL owners - what mods / modifications do you foresee/planning (so far)?

    This will be my third Jeep and I learned several lessons during the first two that I think will make this build a bit better. I am waiting to see what the Scrambler is like but if thats shit I may get a JL instead. I would get a rubicon version with the diesel either way. I put 35's with only...


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