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  1. View Wrangler 4XE in Augmented Reality (Starting Jan 11)

    Hey FCA, how about we look at this in actual reality? Whens the damn thing ship?
  2. Loose steering feels like it has play and drifts

    Whats your reference? An IFS vehicle? It'll never steer like that. It'll always be a bit different.
  3. Loose steering feels like it has play and drifts

    I don't think you'll ever have "zero play" in a solid axle vehicle. That steering looks good and probably wont change with ambient temperature. Congrats on having fixed steering. If you still don't like it, I'd recommend an IFS vehicle.
  4. Loose steering feels like it has play and drifts

    Yes true, however Jeep gave many of us the runaround, trying to claim it was as designed. Turns out its just defective. Should be covered under warranty.
  5. Loose steering feels like it has play and drifts

    Darlene, does this apply to those who are over their warranty mileage, but had the problem documented multiple times while within the warranty period? Can you help with that case as well?
  6. Test drove Land Rover Defender

    The answer is always more. And now you've inspired me to break out the Weller Reserve.
  7. Test drove Land Rover Defender

    Cool so we agree. This whole thing was because the other guy was trying to say that the price of the Grenadier in the US would essentially be UK price adjusted to US dollars (so multiplied by 1.26 or if you prefer divided by .7936). My response is that isn't true, and that prices in the US tend...
  8. Test drove Land Rover Defender

    No one is talking about importing cars from one country to another my dude. I was saying that the same car tends to cost less in the US than in the UK. That's true. Buying a US spec defender from a US dealer is cheaper than if you lived in UK, and bought a UK spec defender from a UK dealer.
  9. Bronco vs Jeep Wrangler mega thread

    To me the point is we don't know the number. Could be 60% could be 35%, we dont' know. So stop claiming, with such certainty, that most don't go off road. We have some good evidence that many do go off road. I've seen stats that 85% of Rubicon owners go off road. Maybe one day someone will do a...
  10. Bronco vs Jeep Wrangler mega thread

    Its not a fact at all that "most" wranglers dont go off road. That hasnt been proven at all. We've found a few studies where the number is over 50%. People definitely want to believe this is true, and they regurgitate it into each others mouths often, but there is no basis whatsoever for this claim.
  11. Test drove Land Rover Defender

    bahahhah? Do you know what you are talking about? In some cases you divide, in some you multiply. In this case, at the time 1 pound = 1.26 usd, so multiplying the pounds by that factor is perfectly fine. If the exchange rate was reversed, so say 1 USD = 0.79 pound, then you would divide 48,655...
  12. Test drove Land Rover Defender

    come on, give it a shot, try to prove how a person could NOT pay that much in pounds today to buy the car, and if i needed to convert my usd to pounds, that it wouldnt cost that exact amount in usd. And then prove how the price plus the tax of the state you are in in usa does not equal less than...
  13. Test drove Land Rover Defender

    I get it man, math isn't your thing. Just stick to what you're good at, whatever that is.
  14. Test drove Land Rover Defender

    Let me break this down for you. £48,655 x 1.26 = 61,305 usd. $49,990 plus 8% average tax rate (zero in some states like Oregon but whatever lets use worst case) is 53,989. The car is literally less expensive in the US, and the grenadier will be too. Sorry brit.
  15. Test drove Land Rover Defender

    guess you haven’t been paying attention. Just looked at Land Rover uk vs usa. A base defender with p300 gas engine is £48,655, and the same car on lr usa is $49,990. Like i said usually around the same number, sometimes lower in usd, but always actually cheaper due to exchange rates.
  16. Test drove Land Rover Defender

    Usually USD prices are the same or lower than UK prices. But even so, I'd still pay 65k
  17. Test drove Land Rover Defender

    No, 28K pounds in 2016, the last year of production. Defenders are cheap in other parts of the world.
  18. Test drove Land Rover Defender

    40k is target. I think they'll hit it. Remember, the old Defender only cost like 28k pounds in the UK when new. Its only 100K+ in the US due to limited supply. Theres no reason a vehicle like this needs to cost 100k. MB does it on the G cause they can get away with it, and have built it into a...
  19. Test drove Land Rover Defender

    More like Rubicon. Has lockers.