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  1. Trail Rail Management System

    Mine too, both ordering and in parts.
  2. offset and backspace advice all over the place. what is correct?

    AGREED. Thank goodness it is Friday night:beer: But in their product specs for many wheels it looks like they are using the actual backspacing as opposed to the calculated, so perhaps that helps, perhaps it only adds to the confusion. Are some wheels nominal and others not, is every...
  3. offset and backspace advice all over the place. what is correct?

    Dude, we are talking about measuring backspacing. Edit* I see now what you were saying, yes, you can calculate the backspacing. When most places just give it to you, I'm not sure why you would, and with all the convoluted calculations and incorrect assumptions (like rim width having no...
  4. offset and backspace advice all over the place. what is correct?

    Chart: Difference from Measuring Rim Rim Width Approximate Tire Section Width 0.5" narrower 5.5" 8.03" Measuring Rim 6.0"...
  5. offset and backspace advice all over the place. what is correct?

    How do you find the actual screaming smiley here. Why do people post misinformation. Backspacing is NOT calculated by the offset. Take a straight edge, lay it across the back of the wheel, measure from there to the hub mating surface of the wheel, that is your backspace, PERIOD, no...
  6. offset and backspace advice all over the place. what is correct?

    Taken from TireRack, who I believe offers pretty reliable information: The industry rule of thumb is that for every 1/2" change in rim width, the tire's section width will correspondingly change by approximately 2/10".
  7. offset and backspace advice all over the place. what is correct?

    Oh boy :headbang: Here's the Mopar 4" lift text, wait for it, no mention of offset, because, that's right, it doesn't matter from a CLEARANCE standpoint: NOTE: It is recommended that this lift be used in junction with 35” to 37” diameter and 12.5” wide tires with a 17” diameter wheel with a...
  8. offset and backspace advice all over the place. what is correct?

    But it isn't wrong, you are just making it way more complicated than it has to be, or trying to oversimplify it as offset is all that matters, which is wrong. Tire manufacturer's quote a rim width range, a reference rim width, and resultant section width and tread width. While it is true the...
  9. Aftermarket Wheels that fit JL

    Most places allow you to choose. So if you are getting a new mounted/balanced set and selling your stock set you would get them, if you were parting out your stock set, you might keep them, and they would just install them on new rims.
  10. Aftermarket Wheels that fit JL

    I wonder what impact the now standard big brake package, that Mopar says needs 17" wheels is going to do to the ability to use 16s.
  11. Consumer Reports review of the 2018 Wrangler JL

    So... not renewing your subscription?:giggle:
  12. Consumer Reports review of the 2018 Wrangler JL

    I've had similar discussions with many car guy friends about this. One of them bought a Ford Focus RS recently, and we were discussing the interior, he bought the nicest version of a $20K car, for $40K. A lot of cars have gone this route, when I bought a Hellcat I was all too often reminded...
  13. Consumer Reports review of the 2018 Wrangler JL

    Exactly. I am part of this forum, so I say this not in a demeaning way, but this forum is jaded. We aren't the bulk of Wrangler buyers. I laugh when I see the posts about how the JL has become too much like an SUV in this, that, and the other. My mother has a MB GLC300, it stickered for...
  14. Automatic Sticker and Build Sheet tracking

    Not that good! All these people getting their build sheets with order dates encircling mine, and I sit at not found :( I better not be a part of the headlight delay!
  15. offset and backspace advice all over the place. what is correct?

    I can empathize. If I just slapped an extra 3 inches of tire to the outside of my 911, I'd have custom grooved tires, or flared fenders after a few laps. There's just a little more room in the wheelwells to play with on these Jeeps.
  16. offset and backspace advice all over the place. what is correct?

    I understand what you are saying. I chose backspacing because manufacturers like Teraflex and Mopar specify 4.5" backspacing when suggesting wheels to accommodate their lifts, and they just don't mention offset at all, since within the confines of "normal" width rims, say 7.5" to 10", the...
  17. offset and backspace advice all over the place. what is correct?

    12mm is just under 1/2", that is the offset. But your point about the backspacing is correct, go to TireRack, or any of the giant online wheel and tire places, and you'll find the vast majority of JK aftermarket wheels have around 4.5" backspacing. Which is what people are throwing on JLs now.
  18. offset and backspace advice all over the place. what is correct?

    Which is exactly why backspacing isn't an annoying measurement, but rather has been a defining measurement in terms of what works best with Jeeps. Most compatible rims for Jeeps, especially those lifted, seem to have close to 4.5" backspacing, so then it doesn't matter in terms of rim width or...
  19. 17x9.5offset -18 4.5 backspacing Black Rhino Armorys

    Hmm, I like these. What is the weight of the wheel? Also how far out past the fender does the wheel and tire sit? If it's easier to just take a pic square to the front fender line, I can tell from that. Thanks!
  20. offset and backspace advice all over the place. what is correct?

    My limited experience with this: for me the 4.5" comes from the JK Mopar 2" lift I have, which states in the instructions that they recommend that Backspacing as stock may rub, both in the front, and be an issue with the rear swaybar link attachment hardware (I remember people in a Mopar lift...



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