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  1. Recommended Dealers List

    I feel like we need a spreadsheet on dealers and discounts. So who, east of the Rockies has the best deal on 2021 JL's? Does it matter that I'll probably go Rubicon/Diesel? Called Criswell, had to leave VM. Called Koons, Craig(?) is out till Thursday. Anyone else I should try? Willing to...
  2. Who's ordered 3.0 diesel? Share your build

    What is the new full time 4WD system offered? Are they going to a dial on the dash? PS: Can I ask what Off Road + is on the JT’s and now on the Rubicons?
  3. Latest 2021 Jeep Wrangler JL and JLU Order Guides (January 2021)

    That’s exactly what I meant. Front camera would be nice, but without a washer nozzle I’m not so sure. In Michigan we spray salt on the roads like nobody’s business. And the view would be no good. I guess I could get my lazy ass out of the keep and wipe it off from time to time, but $60K+ I’d...
  4. Who's ordered 3.0 diesel? Share your build

    I feel like, at only 7,000 miles, there shouldn’t be ANY issue. This 3rd Gen diesel isn’t brand new this year is it? Wasn’t in the RAM 1500 last year? The MPGs with mods is my primary reason for the 3.0. You can’t touch 20mpg with the other two optionsonce you add tires, lift, winch, etc. I...
  5. Latest 2021 Jeep Wrangler JL and JLU Order Guides (January 2021)

    Anyone know if the '21 JL's will get the washer nozzle on the front trail cam like the Gladiators?
  6. Michigan Dealers with Good Deals?

    Hey All, looking to buy a JL, but can't find what I want anywhere in the friggin' nation with Autotrader. I'm willing to drive up to day's worth away, (8-12hr drive), maybe longer if its a steal. Where are the best "local" dealers for JL deals? Anyone closer than Koon's or Criswell that'll...
  7. Who's ordered 3.0 diesel? Share your build

    Damn you guys, thanks for all the responses! Really glad to hear there haven't been any real issues. I was over on the RAM forums and they seem to believe if the engine is worked on occasion and given highway time (to regen) it'll be fine in the long run. I'm really happy to hear the MPGs are...
  8. Who's ordered 3.0 diesel? Share your build

    Just reading this thread, can you diesel owners talk about reliability thus far? Any issues at all with your G3 3.0? Thinking of pulling the trigger on that engine. Thanks. Whats your current odometer? What MPGs are you seeing with stock or mods? Any issues of real concern (relating to...
  9. Buying Soon: Engine Option Questions...

    There is truth in all of that. My old JK 3.8 has tainted my confidence in gas engines for a wrangler. I could re-gear I guess. But I just can't justify 15mpgs everyday. IMHO. I don't plan to tow anything and if so, very rarely. I will be modified though. And from that perspective, I see the 2.0...
  10. Buying Soon: Engine Option Questions...

    For me, this will most likely be my DD (at least initially) and my wheeling rig. What MPGs are you guys with the gas engines seeing with larger tires and heavier upgrades, (bumpers/winch)? My commute is 90% highway miles so that's why I think I can justify the 3.0. I understand the it'll take...
  11. Buying Soon: Engine Option Questions...

    The 3.0 seems to still hold mid 20’s on the MPG scale after the bigger tires and some mods (winch etc). Can the 2.0 carry all that without having to downshift to 6th gear at 60+mph? I remember the 3.8 having a hard as hell time on the 4.10s with 35’s doing anything over 60-65. Thats all I can...
  12. Buying Soon: Engine Option Questions...

    The right thing to do. I should just get a second car for the DD.
  13. Buying Soon: Engine Option Questions...

    Thanks all for the input. Appreciate the reponses despite this probably being 413th time asked. I’ve owned two TJ’s and a JKU. All had the 4.0 or the weak 3.8 (2008MY). Over the last several years me and the buddies (like lots of Jeepers) have thought about diesel swaps. But when FCA...
  14. Buying Soon: Engine Option Questions...

    Hey All, long time reader, 2nd time poster... I think I'm going to buy a JL. Also maybe considering the JT. But really considering the 3.0. What is the overall opinion of that? Besides the whole, new engine, potential long term issues, what are thoughts for overall use? I'm leaning towards...
  15. 2Door Snow Performance. Owner’s Opinions Requested

    Just about ready to pull the trigger on a Rubicon. I’ve had a JKUR for several years and then more recently had a TJR. Obviously the wheelbase and weight difference make the TJ more squirrelly while driving down paved roads, but I about died twice and the wife made me sell it. So now here I am...
  16. 2019 JL Build and Price on Jeep.com

    As of Monday at 12:40pm there is still no 2019 option on the site.
  17. 2019 Jeep Wrangler Ordering Shows 3.0L CRD Diesel V6 (w/Manual Transmission?) and 3.6L BSG Engines!

    The price of diesel alone negates the added MPG advantage here in Michigan. Gas is $2.92 and diesel is currently $3.23. It’s almost always $.30-.40 more per gallon. I’m saving $7-10 per tank. That’s approximately 165,000 miles of driving before the saving pay for themselves. And that’s...
  18. 2019 Jeep Wrangler Ordering Shows 3.0L CRD Diesel V6 (w/Manual Transmission?) and 3.6L BSG Engines!

    Just because I’m a green thumb when it comes to diesel technicalities: Is the 3.0 CRD different than the (fully expected) Eco diesel? Or is it the same thing with more than one name? The Eco and CRD are the same engine or no? They put the CRD in the KJ, correct?
  19. Waiting for diesel?

    No Way! I can’t even check as I write this. Are you toying with us?! 4dr only?! What’s the price?
  20. 2019 Jeep Wrangler 2-Door JL ORDER GUIDE and PRICING (U.S.)

    Sounds like it’s a typo. Poster earlier in the thread ordered his 2dr 3.6 auto last night.



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