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  1. My first reactions from 4xe Wrangler test drive!

    I agree - for someone looking for a well-appointed Wrangler, the 4xe launch edition is a good proposition for all the reasons you mention. FCA has done a good job making the PHEV not any more prohibitively expensive than other configurations at the $55k-$60k price point. Time will tell what...
  2. My first reactions from 4xe Wrangler test drive!

    I get $56,570 with the jeep.com online configurator for the 3.6L etorque; $55,070 with 2.0L turbo. Still not a huge upcharge for 4xe - maybe $3+k similarly appointed? 4xe requires you to start with a well appointed vehicle, so you can save a lot more by skipping options or even going to a...
  3. earning money at end of lease

    When you lease you only pay sales tax on the portion of the lease. Simple example if you lease a $45k Jeep that has a $30k residual after three years and you have a sales tax of 7%, you pay $15k*0.07 = $1,050 rolled into your lease payments. If you were to buy the vehicle outright, you would...
  4. Help?! 2020 JLU Fishtailed and Rolled After Transfer Case Locked Wheels Up

    I had a '79 Z28 that had racing transmission shift kit so that it would slam into gear for quick upshifts. Pulling a gradual left turn away from a stoplight after soaking the rear tires in the sudsy overflow of a corner car wash was enough to spin me out onto a curb when second gear hit and I...
  5. Help?! 2020 JLU Fishtailed and Rolled After Transfer Case Locked Wheels Up

    How fast were you moving when you did your shift into 4wd HI? You have a Willys which comes standard with LSD so I think you locked the rear axle (like posted earlier) which caused loss of vehicle control. Let's assume a properly functioning transfer case, which may not be a good assumption...
  6. Non Rubicon Owners - Would you have paid for upgrades?

    Great choice! I especially love the sun and sound package on the Willys which gets you the 8.4 Uconnect, Alpine speakers and sky roof for msrp $4k. Most other trims have it about a $4k upcharge just for the sky roof over the standard fabric top! I was close to pulling trigger on that but...
  7. Front and rear D44s on Sport/Sahara 4xe?

    At 4xe launch you can pick between a well appointed Sahara or Rubicon to start. Both have similar D44 front and rear axles and transfer case although the Sahara has 2.72:1 transfer low and 3.73 differentials vs. 4.0:1 transfer case low and 4.10 differentials of the Rubicon. If you can use the...
  8. Non Rubicon Owners - Would you have paid for upgrades?

    Outside of cosmetic items like floormats, door sills or grab handles; I load up my purchase from the factory if I want that feature even if there is a cheaper aftermarket alternative. There is a lot of smart engineering and consideration that goes into designing a product to work together on a...
  9. My first reactions from 4xe Wrangler test drive!

    Graphic rendering of the vehicles on the https://fcaces2021.com/ site and all of the phone/web configurators just doesn't accurately represent colors in real life when looked at in direct sunlight, shading and at night. I went to the lot and actually looked at available colors on Jeep trims...
  10. 50 MPGe - What that really means

    The real strength of the electric motor is in town and start-stop situations as 100% torque is generated at 0 rpm. In these situations where one is driving in hybrid mode, I suspect one could see substantially improved gas mileage but the electricity used also has a cost. This article does a...
  11. 50 MPGe - What that really means

    In E Selec 'electric only mode', you can travel approximately 25 miles without starting the engine, so you could technically never run the gas engine and operate the vehicle for short distances on electric only indefinitely as long as you have access to charging. Depending on your electric...
  12. HIGH ALTITUDE Edition JL Club Thread

    Yes, the High Altitude has a place just like the G-class Wagon for those looking for a daily driver with luxury and safety content but also something capable in snow, mud and off-road conditions. Mercedes makes a great vehicle (and charges accordingly), but I think the 2018 JLU chassis on the...
  13. Do Higher Trim Owners Look Down on us Sport/Sport S owners?

    There seems to be a number of threads that speak to the opposite shaming of Wrangler owners as 'mall cruisers' with color-coordinated fenders, bumpers and tops, stitched leather interiors and high-end technology. I am grateful that there is such a wide choice of trim levels and drivetrains at...
  14. How much does your Jeep weigh?

    Next time everyone out of the Jeep!
  15. HIGH ALTITUDE Edition JL Club Thread

    High Altitude 4xe billet silver/black, LSD, with sky one touch roof on order. I was looking for a highly optioned rubi or sahara and checking the high altitude package gets you there plus comes with an incredible interior that is otherwise unavailable on the other trims. On the Rubicon, you...
  16. Jeep Parent Fiat Chrysler Agrees to Merger With Peugeot Owner PSA

    Auto manufacturing has been a global proposition for a long time and it is not necessarily always a bad thing. I love my 2018 Jeep Grand Cherokee WK2 Hemi Summit which has great DNA: Mercedes designed chassis (same as w166 ML platform - older but still great), independent suspension and air...
  17. What's the risk - first year 4xe

    The first year release of any new vehicle can be associated with 'growing pains' as new technology is introduced into the marketplace. In considering a 4xe, here are some of my thoughts on the platform and what's been available for 12 months+ and what's brand new. Utilized and proven 12+...
  18. Sound Deadener for Sky One touch top

    Mark, also excited about you developing an insulated liner for the SOT I ordered on my new wrangler. I love open air driving, but I currently live in the mid-west so SOT will be closed for a few months and it would be great to have a convertible top-like liner that provides both temperature and...



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