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  1. (Solved) 2021 4xe Battery Capacity after 15 Months-Lost 5 miles of range

    That is definitely more likely. It's also entirely possible that it's all coincidence. My estimated range will often vary. Sometimes I'd change by 4-5 miles in the time between when I turn the jeep on and when I back out of my driveway.
  2. (Solved) 2021 4xe Battery Capacity after 15 Months-Lost 5 miles of range

    Most dash cams seem to have a draw somewhere in the neighborhood of 2 W... so combined between the iPad and the dash cam, over a 24 hour period, you're now up to about a football field of range
  3. (Solved) 2021 4xe Battery Capacity after 15 Months-Lost 5 miles of range

    Let's run that theory to ground. You're saying that the ipod was reducing the range by about 10%, so 1.5kWh, or 1500 Wh. An ipod battery, full charge, is about 3 Wh. Or, in terms of reducing your driving range... about 21 feet.
  4. One year with my Rubicon 4xe

    To be pedantic and in the name of accuracy, FORM does not prevent EV mode in the cold. One may get an "Electric Mode Unavailable" when cold and the battery needs conditioned, but that is a different thing than FORM. FORM itself is more prevalent in cold weather due to fuel build up in the oil...
  5. 4xe Electric Mode Unavailable Suddenly Under Load

    If you're in step 1 of form, it should be as simple as next time you're driving, put it into esave or manual to force the engine to come on and then try to put it back into electric. If you're in step 1 of form, it'll trigger electric mode unavailable and you'll get the form message. It's...
  6. 4xe Electric Mode Unavailable Suddenly Under Load

    Do you often drive in hybrid or electric and accelerate aggressively, causing the motor to come on temporarily and then turn off? Starting in electric, triggering the ice to come on, and then being locked out of going back into electric until you restart, accompanied by an "electric mode...
  7. Wrangler Tantrum?

    Christmas trees on the dash are usually a low voltage issue. Either a bad 12v battery or a poor electrical connection to the battery (loose fuse, damaged/loose wiring connection)
  8. Dissapointed in the 4xe Max Regeneration mode

    This thread is missing a fundamental understanding of how the regenerative braking system in the 4xe works and what "max regen" even does. The 4xe uses a blended braking system controlled by the regenerative braking system. Except for when at low speeds or in low traction situations, decel up...
  9. Forgot cold weather package on new order

    Doubtful it'll be an issue with that fast of a turn around.
  10. Drove a 4xe sahara at work, what’s with the brake pedal?

    Not necessarily. There is plenty of decel that can occur when pressing the brake pedal that will only trigger regen. You don't get automatic activation of the mechanical brakes just because you pressed the brake pedal. If you want the most aggressive regen, you have to push the brake pedal...
  11. Would you still buy 4xe today with $11k price difference?

    Have you actually compared the numbers against a 4xe, or just the strawman vehicle that doesn't exist you discussed previously? If you don't want a 4xe, that's cool, but the analysis you showed earlier in this thread wasn't comparing against a 4xe.
  12. Would you still buy 4xe today with $11k price difference?

    There are plenty of dealers that'll do the same, substantial discount on 4xes as they do on gas. If you're paying near invoice, much less over msrp, you're doing it wrong.
  13. Would you still buy 4xe today with $11k price difference?

    It is neither of those things. It is quick and performs well, but not as well as the 392. It is a good bit cheaper. They do make good stalemates though.
  14. 4xe vs 392 drag race

    The 4xe is quick and makes for a better every day vehicle, but the 392 is much faster and a different kind of fun. Source:
  15. Anyone traded in/sold a 22 4xe

    Givemethevin has been making good offers on these lately. With that said, your dealer offer is pretty solid.
  16. Would you still buy 4xe today with $11k price difference?

    No you aren't. You're ignoring some of the specs and incorrectly interpreting others.
  17. Would you still buy 4xe today with $11k price difference?

    The problem here is you're comparing against some non-existant vehicle that is $12000 more expensive and gets 49 mpg rather than a 4xe, which is neither of those things.
  18. Would you still buy 4xe today with $11k price difference?

    There is literally a side by side breakdown posted on the last comparing order prices on two identically equipped jeeps.
  19. Would you still buy 4xe today with $11k price difference?

    4xe rubicon has a lot of standard features on it that the gas doesn't, so you're not comparing apples to apples... which was my point. Further, you're ignoring the $7500 tax credit, which significantly closes the gap. The actual price difference between a comparably equipped Rubicon and a 4xe...
  20. Would you still buy 4xe today with $11k price difference?

    You should see how much more a jlu Rubicon is than a jlu sport.




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