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  1. Is the Future of Jeep Wrangler in Jeopardy Under Stellantis?

    A Roxor is $30K so what exactly about that makes people think it's a better deal than the $32K Wrangler that is street legal? Not exactly sure where Wrangler prices are going, but if I didn't buy my 2021 when I did, there was no way I was going to trade my 2018 for a 2024, the price bump from...
  2. Hooke Road Trunk Cargo Rack

    It will fit any Wrangler, but the bracket uses the soft top mounting points, so with the SOT those points would not be needed, but with a hardtop, people doing softtop swap, it would be an issue.
  3. Hooke Road Trunk Cargo Rack

    Rubber mat, thanks for the tip, I have the Hooke Road cargo rack for the SOT, zero complaints.
  4. Worst Gas Milage than a Ford Expedition

    So you bought a PHEV that wasn't suited for your needs, there really isn't any real reason to buy a PHEV in the first place especially if you will not plug-in them, don't care for the added power etc. It's always a hybrid pushing out the full power regardless of what the battery range shows. A...
  5. Thinking of selling my '23 JLUR 4XE w/Mods - Price suggestions?

    No NTSB fire on 2023+, that recall was mostly 2021, and even that looks like more myth than reality. All newer Wranglers are getting kicked in the tits with resale, older 2018 are sorta holding value because they are over the 5 year depreciation hump that affects all 1-4 year old vehicles...
  6. Worst Gas Milage than a Ford Expedition

    This is where the 4xe is a huge win for some people that do a lot of small trips, and live in a areas with cheap electricity but expensive gas. I filled up minimum 52x a year at $6 per gallon driving mostly city at @14 mpg which means I can do the electric range of 21+ miles for less than $1.20...
  7. Is the Future of Jeep Wrangler in Jeopardy Under Stellantis?

    I don't know about hybrids being great, the 4xe is great for me, I personally don't know anyone that would benefit from a PHEV, when anyone asks my advice, I tell them to forget PHEVs it's a waste of time, either go BEV or HEV, PHEVs is for a very specific purpose. If someone is already have or...
  8. Is the Future of Jeep Wrangler in Jeopardy Under Stellantis?

    It's not supposed to make sense. These decisions are made in urban centres where the main goal is to get everyone out of cars and into a city bus, that's why the whole scheme is cockeyed and falling apart. EVs will save the planet, but not cheap Chinese EVs, only expensive faulty EVs from the...
  9. Is the Future of Jeep Wrangler in Jeopardy Under Stellantis?

    of course it will "grow" the subsidies is an effective carrot, the problem is, people don't realize the promise isn't as rosy as it seems, and they get stuck with an expensive vehicle that does not suit their needs. EVs are very specific and limited use vehicles, they are not for the masses...
  10. Is the Future of Jeep Wrangler in Jeopardy Under Stellantis?

    Not really Americans are overwhelmingly rejecting EVs, which is a good thing, EVs being expensive also doesn't help. Things to consider, gas vs electric costs isn't much of a win, it's very regional, people will talk about free electric from the sun and using gold fish to create a mini hydro...
  11. Is the Future of Jeep Wrangler in Jeopardy Under Stellantis?

    In the less than 3 years, I'm making the same money, so inflation and buying power and all that fancy stuff doesn't take many people situation into consideration. Canadian dollars 2021 Sahara 4xe $63,070, a non 4xe same build was about the same price back then. 2024 Sahara 4xe $80,823 Here...
  12. Is the Future of Jeep Wrangler in Jeopardy Under Stellantis?

    One way to look at it is the 2024 Wrangler similar equipment cost $17,000 more than my 2021 less than 3 years later. I personally would not pay that price for a 2024, also the 2021 was more than I should have paid to begin with, but I pretty much got what I paid for my 2018JL on trade, being a...
  13. Is the Future of Jeep Wrangler in Jeopardy Under Stellantis?

    There is also a survey out which says 50% of EV owners don't want to buy an EV next time, so the best strategy it seems is build 💩 people don't want. So the government grease to lure people to buy EVs is a huge failure as expected...
  14. Is the Future of Jeep Wrangler in Jeopardy Under Stellantis?

    For starters Stellantis keep pumping out vehicles that no one is buying, so they need an immediate strategy for the paperweights they are sending to the lots, those dead stock includes all the best sellers like Wrangler and RAM. What is strange is people here are waiting months on end for their...
  15. Power Top Issue Won’t Open - resolved

    True try this also, disconnecting the 12v fixed my misbehaving radiio. The 4xe does not have the aux battery though, just the main 12v. Maybe look at this video in case you missed a step in the recalibration process.
  16. Electric Mode Temporarily Unavailable in 2024 Wrangler

    It's not only the "horrible" 4xe that's not selling, it's everything Stellantis makes that are not selling, gotta keep those production lines churning out expensive vehicles that no one wants, it's one thing the new ones are overpriced, but so are the ones on the used car lots. Personally if...
  17. Took my 4xe to CarMax and ouch.

    You can probably spell out the breakdown for others how you got it from $59K to $38K Based on what I've seen on other posts I don't doubt $38K, and with a $34K residual that's close to 90% "resale" 😂 Common factors 15% off MSRP + $7,500 plus whatever else incentives. So basically whoever is...
  18. 303 Fabric Guard use

    I bought a gallon of the 303 outdoor fabric from Costco, and everytime I see it on a good sale anywhere I buy I use it on the SOT, I usually put two coats early spring 24 hours apart, top up a coat in the summer, then 2x coats again in autumn. Seems to work very well for me, after a downpour...
  19. Does Jeep Connect collect driving data like GM's Smart Driver?

    https://vehicleprivacyreport.com/report/?vin=YOURVIN# Replace YOURVIN with your VIN or one you grab from auto trader Here is a snapshot of what is says


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