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  1. New Rubicon Parts-paying it forward

    If only I was closer ... But as said, awesome post.
  2. JL Window Sticker and Build Sheet Order Tracking

    I had the exact same issue just mine was with logistics. Jeff is about as useful as a turd. Its all "feel good" fluff and as far as I can tell no real work behind the scenes.
  3. What is the worst dealer behavior that you've observed?

    Allen Samuels CDJR in Hutchinson, KS was absolutely a nightmare. I had purchased a used car from Laird Noller CDJR (previous owners) and it was alright ... So back to Allen Samuels CDJR. I was working with the Internet sales manager while pricing out my new 2021 JL we were looking to purchase...
  4. 2021 JL Build Status - Post Yours

    To ramp at the train yard and find a truck ... it could be same day, it could be a couple of weeks. It just depends on when and where you are queued in the VLS and how many truck drivers are driving these around to drop them off. Lower volume stores take a back seat compared to high volume...
  5. Anyone have steering issue on a 2021?

    My wifes 2021 has no issues with steering. Having driven jeeps before we knew what to expect, though this is our first ownership of a jeep. Our tires were factory inflated to 42 PSI. I run ours at 36 PSI cold and haven't had many issues. If we kept them at 42 like our drive home ... it was a...
  6. 2021 Adds Two Additional USB Ports?

    I've been all over my Jeep and so far the only two that I know of are on the Media port on the front under the radio and then the other is in the center console. I haven't found any others yet nor have my kids.
  7. What did you name your Jeep JL?

    I tried naming the wife's new Jeep "The Mommy Mall Crawler [MMC for short]" but she was not impressed. So the HellYella got named "Sunshine" by my daughter and so the name has now stuck.
  8. “Warranty options”???

    I would think this is the extended warranty options. YMMV but I'd definitely not get one through the dealer.
  9. Just ordered my Jeep... Now what?

    I came here just to say that. :)
  10. Quick Question on Pricing on Used 2019 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sport Altitude

    Here is the Sticker price new: https://www.jeep.com/hostd/windowsticker/getWindowStickerPdf.do?vin=1C4HJXDN1KW657663 MSRP was 44615. I'd assume Invoice was about 41000. 38k would have been about the price if I would have bought it new. I would agree, that you should be in the 34-36k range since...
  11. Bought at Criswell and used their financing - no pay-off penalty, but risk of losing 2% discount post-sale? How?

    My recent purchase asked me if I wanted to use FCA Financing, Bringing my Own, or if I wanted to find someone. We landed on Ally at 3.79% and we were out the door. I didn't get 7-8% off of invoice, but we did settle on 4% where I bought from. Maybe word doesn't mean much, and a "gentlemans"...
  12. JL Window Sticker and Build Sheet Order Tracking

    Saddening. It could just be where it has been queued for pickup. Logistics isn't always FIFO and sometimes is LIFO. You know where it is, it's only a matter of time now.
  13. 2021 JL Build Status - Post Yours

    I would agree with this. Sales Manager or General Manager. They want high marks on the service they provide (survey/questionaire) and that shouldn't stop because your sales guy is out.
  14. JL Window Sticker and Build Sheet Order Tracking

    Once it's on a train car, it's 3-5 days generally. The hold up is if there are delays or it sits on the storage lot at the unloading facility waiting on a truck to deliver it to the dealership. It could find a truck the same day or it could be a few weeks. I would say that you should be right on...
  15. 2021 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited JLU (4-Door) ORDER GUIDE!

    The guide is a good place. 1. Shop around. Look at what people here in the forums recommend for dealers to work with. Some are great, some are not. 2. It entirely depends, again on the dealership, your affiliation (tread lightly). Some people state that 2% under invoice is great, while some can...
  16. JL Window Sticker and Build Sheet Order Tracking

    The tool only pulls from the Jeep database when it is published there; sometimes it is there, sometimes it isn't. Your best information comes from your dealership and Jeep Chat. You could also try to view the information, like your build sheet manually by following this guide...
  17. Order Tracking

    So the "tracking" isn't really tracking. It will just tell you when the build sheet has been found and window sticker has been found. The "ship date" is the estimated start date of the build. From your date of order entry (When VON is generated) 5-12 weeks, though it is trending at 5-7 weeks...
  18. Sad day today...

    Same situation for us. We are outside of Wichita.
  19. Used 2020 or new 2021 JKU

    I think it really depends on your patience level. I would always order new instead of having something used.
  20. 2021 Jeep Wrangler Now Include 3 Years of Jeep Wave Care Program (Free Maintenance)

    When I logged into my Jeep Wave account, I see I have the three year expiration, but it is the first three oil changes and tire rotations that are covered and nothing else per all of the fine print and FAQ's. The Oil change on a gas vehicle is $115 total (give or take depending coupons and...



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