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  1. ⚡️ 2024 Jeep Recon EV Revealed! (Off-Road Capable BEV) *** ⚠️ WARNING: NO POLITICS ***

    Regenerative braking increases brake life. Coolant would depend on the design but Tesla claims you don't have to change for the life of the vehicle. Others have different intervals. Replacing a battery is not maintenance, unless you consider an engine replacement standard maintenance. If you...
  2. ⚡️ 2024 Jeep Recon EV Revealed! (Off-Road Capable BEV) *** ⚠️ WARNING: NO POLITICS ***

    I'm not sure what possible increase in maintenance there cold be, unless I am missing something. I guess the weight could have a negative impact on tires and suspension causing them to be replaced sooner, but no oil, no coolant, brakes should last longer. The long term reliability is yet to be...
  3. ⚡️ 2024 Jeep Recon EV Revealed! (Off-Road Capable BEV) *** ⚠️ WARNING: NO POLITICS ***

    The last numbers I saw for 2022 were over 5% of new sales were EV, and considering there are very few models available for sale (with massive wait lists), I would assume the market is far greater than 10% of the population. These numbers don't even include the hybrid sales.
  4. ⚡️ 2024 Jeep Recon EV Revealed! (Off-Road Capable BEV) *** ⚠️ WARNING: NO POLITICS ***

    Being reliant on foreign sources is a valid concern, but there is a small amount in the US. Unfortunately we are going to be heavily dependent on others for anything battery powered. Which is a good reason to diversify and not force one specific option. Again an EV is no harder to control...
  5. ⚡️ 2024 Jeep Recon EV Revealed! (Off-Road Capable BEV) *** ⚠️ WARNING: NO POLITICS ***

    It doesn't matter how many times you explain it, so many have just decided EV is some government plot to control them. You can provide all the evidence in the world and they will instead quote some obscure podcast as proof that EVs are evil. For me the performance alone is enough to consider...
  6. ⚡️ 2024 Jeep Recon EV Revealed! (Off-Road Capable BEV) *** ⚠️ WARNING: NO POLITICS ***

    You still aren't comprehending my statement that an ICE ban is a really bad idea. You also are pointing to something you think will happen in 2035. California, New York and other deep blue states may very well make some ridiculous law, but everyone else doesn't have to follow them. Even with...
  7. ⚡️ 2024 Jeep Recon EV Revealed! (Off-Road Capable BEV) *** ⚠️ WARNING: NO POLITICS ***

    That doesn't make a lot of sense. For one it doesn't limit your movement. It also doesn't account for almost everyone paying with credit card, the GPS tracking in the car, or the tracking on the cellphone in your pocket. Also if you charge your vehicle from home it wouldn't be tracking you...
  8. ⚡️ 2024 Jeep Recon EV Revealed! (Off-Road Capable BEV) *** ⚠️ WARNING: NO POLITICS ***

    Why do you keep pointing out California? We have been over this, try reading it again
  9. ⚡️ 2024 Jeep Recon EV Revealed! (Off-Road Capable BEV) *** ⚠️ WARNING: NO POLITICS ***

    What exactly is the opposing viewpoint? You stated let the consumer decide. Which is exactly what is happening. Some consumers want EV, therefore manufactures will produce some EVs. What does CAFE have to do with this? The average consumer couldn't tell you anything at all about CAFE...
  10. ⚡️ 2024 Jeep Recon EV Revealed! (Off-Road Capable BEV) *** ⚠️ WARNING: NO POLITICS ***

    What exactly am I ill informed on? CAFE standards don't require EV and unless something has changed it doesn't actually force you to do anything it just fines the company. I have repeatedly brought up California banning ICE and stated it is a bad idea, however that isn't forcing anyone to...
  11. ⚡️ 2024 Jeep Recon EV Revealed! (Off-Road Capable BEV) *** ⚠️ WARNING: NO POLITICS ***

    I don't understand this logic. How is the government going to control your movement in an EV that they couldn't also do in an ICE?
  12. ⚡️ 2024 Jeep Recon EV Revealed! (Off-Road Capable BEV) *** ⚠️ WARNING: NO POLITICS ***

    This sounds a lot like anger. No one is forcing Jeep, Ford, GM to make EVs and when they do there is a long line of customers lining up to buy them. Your statement "Let the consumer decide what they want to drive not a handful of people at the top.", is exactly what is happening and the...
  13. ⚡️ 2024 Jeep Recon EV Revealed! (Off-Road Capable BEV) *** ⚠️ WARNING: NO POLITICS ***

    I don't know what you are trying to say. Could you elaborate?
  14. ⚡️ 2024 Jeep Recon EV Revealed! (Off-Road Capable BEV) *** ⚠️ WARNING: NO POLITICS ***

    If you don't like it don't buy it. There are huge waiting lists for every new EV introduced and plenty of ICE vehicles still available for anyone who wants one. I don't understand the anger toward EVs. Some people act like their entire family was killed by a rouge EV during the Skynet takeover
  15. ⚡️ 2024 Jeep Recon EV Revealed! (Off-Road Capable BEV) *** ⚠️ WARNING: NO POLITICS ***

    That is probably where the charging port is located
  16. ⚡️ 2024 Jeep Recon EV Revealed! (Off-Road Capable BEV) *** ⚠️ WARNING: NO POLITICS ***

    Clearly it is a reason, and as I stated banning ICE is a really bad idea. I would hope those states are investing in upgrades, but the only one I am aware of is California, which also happens to be the one in the news for banning ICE so I wouldn't expect much from that particular state. I...
  17. ⚡️ 2024 Jeep Recon EV Revealed! (Off-Road Capable BEV) *** ⚠️ WARNING: NO POLITICS ***

    In my opinion no they are not moving too fast. However places completely banning ICE are probably moving too fast. My guess is the infrastructure may lag slightly behind, but that is because they aren't going to invest in it until there is an actual need for it. As EV demands increase there...
  18. ⚡️ 2024 Jeep Recon EV Revealed! (Off-Road Capable BEV) *** ⚠️ WARNING: NO POLITICS ***

    I find it strange that it wasn't an electric Wrangler. I can only assume they are keeping it separate to keep the anti EV happy as well as the EV people
  19. Research study: Jeep Wrangler vs Ford Bronco sales, buyers, etc

    Some interesting findings as well as some completely irrelevant ones. For example more Bronco owners have another Ford than Wrangler owners have another Jeep, this isn't really meaningful when Jeep only sells SUVs and Ford sells everything. If your other vehicle is a car or truck, obviously...
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