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  1. When is the JL Facelift coming?

    Yeah, that’s like a century ago in the car market. my how things have changed. I probably could have gotten what I wanted for around 54-55k then. I offered my local dealer 53.5k otd for a 21 6.2 31k miles with all the options I would want and they wouldn’t even entertain it. And of course...
  2. When is the JL Facelift coming?

    How long ago were you shopping? An RST texas edition is over 60k without any extra options. Silverado pricing (truck pricing in general) has gotten ridiculous. I plan to sell my avalanche and order a LT trailboss 6.2 but am having a hard time coming to terms with paying almost 70k for a pick up.
  3. 💰 Jeep Wranglers have the highest resale value (least depreciation) of all vehicles after 5 years ownership

    Surprised, I thought 4runner was always on this list. Camaro and mustang made the list? Weird times indeed.
  4. And you thought your setup was aggressive....

    Iceland is an amazing place. Thanks for sharing.
  5. BRONCO Raptor. Just saw one

    it was originally the bronco fan plants from the bronco forum stirring up drama.
  6. Things Ford Got Right with the Bronco Vs the Wrangler

    Again, numbers on paper. I’ll take real world results. Bronco is the epitome of a paper tiger. i remember pre release. Look at the numbers, the bronco is going to be so fast. After release not so much. Pre release, it’s going to drive so good on road. After release not so much. Pre...
  7. Things Ford Got Right with the Bronco Vs the Wrangler

    3.6 and 2.0 are base engines. they dominate the base bronco engine. 4xe dominates the 2.7. 392 dominates the braptor. then you have a diesel option for the wrangler as well. Again, jeeps lineup of power trains dominate broncos. Bronco engines look good on paper though. And crazy to think...
  8. Things Ford Got Right with the Bronco Vs the Wrangler

    There’s enough independent tests out there. Bronco is a pig and performance is severely lacking for how good their power trains look on paper.
  9. Things Ford Got Right with the Bronco Vs the Wrangler

    Numbers are nice on paper. What maters is how things perform and the Jeep lineup of power trains dominate broncos.
  10. 3 Weeks In, First Issue!

    Happened to us once in a little over 2 years.
  11. 392 vs Bronco Raptor pricing

    doesnt matter what msrp is. How much can you buy a 392 for? Will you even be able to get a bronco raptor over the next two years. I’m betting with the horrible release of the regular bronco, the raptor won’t be much better, stock will be super low, and the price will skyrocket. Get a 392 and...
  12. Countdown to silly, pointless lights on the Wrangler?

    Did you just say the TRX is less sporty then a raptor?
  13. Ford Bronco Raptor Revealed : 400HP V6 w/ 37's

    To much hyperbole. Anyone downplaying the 392 engine or saying a vehicle is better because of their infotainment screen is not meant to be taken seriously. Ford fanboy or not, how many people are realistically choosing a turbo 6 over a more powerful v8 if having the choice? Jl has been out...
  14. Ford Bronco Raptor Revealed : 400HP V6 w/ 37's

    the 2.7 was supposed to blow the wrangler engine lineup out of the water and it did not. i dont think this one is going to knock the 392 off its thrown either. i have no doubts the bronco will be the better desert runner but all around, nah this aint putting the wrangler, especially the 392...
  15. Ford Bronco Raptor Revealed : 400HP V6 w/ 37's

    im just saying ford is comparing the two and so are consumers. the bronco forum is already saying the raptor puts the 392 to shame lmao. the turbo 6 sounds like ass and has less power then the 392. not sure how thats putting it to shame.
  16. Ford Bronco Raptor Revealed : 400HP V6 w/ 37's

    in fords ad video they are stating the raptor is built for rock crawling.
  17. Stock Wrangler vs Stock Bronco Offroading

    maybe so but this was his reply to this question " Wait are you hinting that the oem Bronco can compete and maybe do some obstacles a bit better than an oem Rubicon on 35? Cant be... " response " The bronco I think did better really " i have watched alot of their videos and will say kevin can...
  18. Stock Wrangler vs Stock Bronco Offroading

    In the video Kevin even admits the wrangler feels more stable. So i dont understand how he believes the bronco did better.
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