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  1. Will This Be The Wrangler’s True Competitor? 2021 Ford Bronco First Leaked Look

    Neither has won my purchase yet. The V8 Wrangler might be able to sway me, but honestly I'd have preferred one in the 4-5L range. I still need to decide of my next vehicle could be "just a car" and build a buggy instead. In which case Bronco might win out.
  2. Bronco influence on 2021 Wrangler

    Because they live in reality, not Fantasy Land. ICE isn't going anywhere for decades, and in the meantime the manufacturers want to remain profitable. None of the images or info have actually indicated 37's. Not from the factory. This continues to be a fantasy of the overly enthusiastic...
  3. Bronco influence on 2021 Wrangler

    Well, Jeep will actually have entrants, and I seriously doubt Ford will (just like last year when they started sponsoring it and couldn't finish a race), so it won't be much of a competition. Unless you meant the vehicle classes that are only 5% stock parts.
  4. JL Wrangler Front Hitch Receiver For Fishing Rod Holder?

    I'd be interested in one integrated into a bumper, but they're extremely uncommon from what I've seen.
  5. What will 100 Year Anniversary Jeep Wrangler will look like?

    I don't think you have to worry about autonomous driving in the next few decades. That's today's pie-in-the-sky equivalent of flying cars back in the 50's. People vastly underestimate how much driving even a halfwits unconscious brain is capable of -- our ability to build sensors and computer...
  6. Looks Like Ford Bronco is Serious About Taking on the Wrangler

    March is when it was supposed to debut. Not sure where you're getting the six month figure, but the exec head of engineering said two, which should put it in the next week or so. If Jeep hadn't changed color availability earlier this year, so would I. Now I get to wait again and see if any JT...
  7. What is the average age of a JL Rubicon owner

    Not that I own one, but this question has been asked by pollsters with a much larger pool of respondants before and you can find research on it fairly easily. The average buyer of a NEW Wrangler, Jeep, pickup, suv, sports or luxury or leisure vehicle are all 50+% over the age of 50, and most of...
  8. Looks Like Ford Bronco is Serious About Taking on the Wrangler

    Guess, what, building cars is mission critical for car companies. The plants with thousands of people in them are still up and running. Ford, GM, and FCA last week informed much of their white-collar workforces to work remotely, but they have kept manufacturing operations up and running...
  9. FCA pulls out of 2020 Easter Jeep Safari. New concept will debut elsewhere.

    I understand the concept entirely, and knew all of that that when I said it. The recommendations being put forth aren't going to have that effect though, because they're much too short. Most of the measures being implemented are saying one week, and that just isn't enough to produce that kind...
  10. FCA pulls out of 2020 Easter Jeep Safari. New concept will debut elsewhere.

    This is going to take months to resolve. Even if the numbers wane, it will flare up again when people relax and start going out and gathering again, until it has run its course and the herd immunity builds up enough to stop it. Delaying or cancelling things like EJS only serve to delay the...
  11. Looks Like Ford Bronco is Serious About Taking on the Wrangler

    How long can Ford afford to delay it though? There are plenty of people who are already tired of waiting and have moved on. I'm kind of pissed the wait has made me lose the opportunity to pick up a Punk'n Diesel.
  12. Why so many doors

    It has a lot more to do with wheelbase than the number of doors, for me. On road stability with strong side winds and on ice, as well as better climbing and descending capability. I think the 4d is a little long, but that works better than the 2d which is too short.
  13. Looks Like Ford Bronco is Serious About Taking on the Wrangler

    The reveal is probably next week, March 18th. An email and text messages were sent out today to dealers. They will start building them for commercial production on December 7th, and you'll see them on lots in Q1 2021.
  14. Start of 3.0 Production

    And Punk'n is discontinued now apparently, it could be one of the very few diesels with that color. I'm going to be jealous if I have to order white ...
  15. Looks Like Ford Bronco is Serious About Taking on the Wrangler

    To be fair, from the back most people aren't going to notice the difference between pickups either, and half the crossovers all look like the same jellybean from the back too. I'm sure that's why Ford only dispersed these photos of it, and not the money shots looking at the front end.
  16. 3.0 MODS - Show em off

    One on the front, another on the back, and uh... one in the middle pointed up ??? :CWL:
  17. Chance of punk'n returning?

    That really sucks ... I was waiting to see / test a diesel on the lot and get info on the Bronco before I put in an order. Both would have happened in the next few weeks. Ordering white and getting it repainted / wrapped right away was something I very much wanted to avoid.
  18. Looks Like Ford Bronco is Serious About Taking on the Wrangler

    I was surprised that the Bronco doesn't appear to be any wider, except in the engine compartment. I would have though cabin space and storage would be one area they would try to outdeliver compared to Wrangler. It seems as though they'll focus on power and the necessary cooling for it, along...
  19. Looks Like Ford Bronco is Serious About Taking on the Wrangler

    Oh well. I'm bored. No one is offering me bribes anyway.
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