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  1. 4xE class action lawsuit filed in the U.S. District Court of Georgia

    My dealer was great. My car was impacted by the seal recall for a charging issue. They got the part within 48 hours and completed the fix. They also told me there was a series of rapid response updates for the 4xe. They applied all of them. This was over a week ago and we’ve driven the 4xe...
  2. 4xE class action lawsuit filed in the U.S. District Court of Georgia

    Aside from that issue, we have loved the vehicle. Its our second Wrangler, our first one was rock solid. So I‘m optimistic that one of the fixes resolved this issue. So far (just under 3K miles ) we are averaging 41.7mpg and the family loves the vehicle. Honestly there is nothing else out there...
  3. 4xE class action lawsuit filed in the U.S. District Court of Georgia

    I was lucky because mine died on a backroad at 5:45am with no other vehicles on the road. But you have maybe 15-30 seconds to get off the road before your car will come to a stop. Unless your going downhill and can coast. This would be scary as hell on the freeway doing 60-80 to nothing very...
  4. 4xE class action lawsuit filed in the U.S. District Court of Georgia

    Was built 4-21. We’ve had it since late May with zero issues. I did charge it to 100% and drove it to 60% locally with no issues. Found a number of loose fuses and tightened all of them down. Called my local dealer and there is a recall they will inspect for and I told them about my issue...
  5. Just don't buy the 4xe! Please don't!

    While I totally feel for the Op, and completely understand his frustration the reality is parts are a huge issue right now. I had a Toyota with less than 800 miles go In for an issue (door lock sensor stopped working) it took them 3.5 weeks to get the part In. I have a friend who bought a...
  6. 4xE class action lawsuit filed in the U.S. District Court of Georgia

    Ironically mine did this today. It complete died in the middle of driving down a 2 lane road with no shoulder. Luckily it was early and no traffic. I was able to put it in park, restart it and drive home. Seems fine now and charges and drives fine. But I would hate for this to happen again...
  7. 4Xe owners: please post you actual real world fuel mileage MPG

    My Rubicon 4xe says 41.1mpg lifetime (2300 miles). My 19 JL (V6) averaged 16.9mpg lifetime.. I’m very happy.
  8. MotorTrend: Bronco vs Wrangler - Which is Best?

    First off, I have no beef with Ford and I think some of their vehicles from a design and performance perspective are brilliant. I owned a Focus RS and Shelby GT350. But here’s the problem. The dealer network sucks. Most Ford dealers insist on big dealer markups. And the real kicker is...
  9. Selling my 4xe

    I think it will be slow decline for the used market, but it will be consistent. The key will be pricing your used vehicle correctly when you first list it, or you could be riding a downwave and constantly be slightly overpriced. The new inventory is the tough part of this. The longer it...
  10. Newbie considering 4xe.. help me decide.

    You can charge your vehicle outside. Just need a charging cable that extends as far as you need and I would recommend a Level 2 charger to reduce chare times. We have a Pacifica Hybrid and a 4XE Rubicon and log about 8-10K miles per year (on average) for both vehicles. PHEV is awesome. We...
  11. 4xe real mpg, tank range?

    According to the app: 1514 total miles 1064 electric miles 450 hybrid miles 37mpg Most of our commuting is on electric, we have only put gas in it once (aside from the dealer tank). This is Rubicon 4xe and my wife and I are both lead foot drivers. Our 18 JL Sport averaged 16.9mpg lifetime.
  12. Selling my 4xe

    I follow several used/car/auction Youtubers in different parts of the country. All of them said it looks like used market peaked 1-2 months ago. But people and dealers are in denial and are still trying to keep prices high since they bought high and want a profit.. Do not overpay for a used...
  13. TeraFlex Drives 2021 Bronco and prefers Jeep

    My 375hp/475tq 4xe is averaging 39.9MPG for the first 2K miles. Yes, we charge a lot :) But still, that 2.3L on mostly highway miles averaged 17mpg on stock wheels/tires/suspension? For people like me that drive mostly city and have a lead foot that means it would be 14mpg. Yikes. My 3.6 FL...
  14. A Wrangler Owner/Enthusiast/Builder honest review of the 2021 Bronco -- long.

    I don't know how anyone could drive a JK back to back with a JL and say Jeep got complacent. Otherwise I totally agree that competition is good, and all everyone will benefit.
  15. Just got home from Bronco event...

    Is that Jeep MSRP? Because you should be able to find 5-8% under op invoice.
  16. Test drove a Bronco Wildtrack.

    Well back here on Earth, Ford has been taking deposits on the Bronco for what, well over a year now, and Stellanits has been reporting record profits since 2019 even with semiconductor shortages. Just a few days ago they highlighted the Wrangler aNd the 4xe specifically as drivers for that...
  17. Test drove a Bronco Wildtrack.

    Bronco hasn’t made a blip in Wrangler sales at this point. Jeep dealers can’t keep them on the lot even with reduced incentives. Used Wrangler prices are stronger than ever. Don’t see that changing. 4xe is almost Impossible to find. 392 has big markups. Not sure what some of you are...
  18. Test drove a Bronco Wildtrack.

    Yep. Within 12 months of each other I owned a Ford GT350 and Chevy Camaro SS1LE. There were pros and cons to each and fanboys on either side love to argue the merits of Camaro vs Mustang.
  19. TFL Tommy talks... Do I Regret Buying My Brand New Jeep Wrangler After Living With The New Ford Bronco For a Week?

    I don't disagree but you could probably say this with 90%+ of the vehicles being sold now. Everything is an option and costs more. Base Corvette starts at $62K or so but GM said the average selling price is around $85K and that is not even with the Z06, ZR1, etc in the mix. Our Pacifica...
  20. JEEP SMOKES BRONCO! Bye 👋 Bye!

    You don't think things like HP/TQ matter to people? Why do you think Jeep offers so many engine choices? I was never dissatisfied with the V6 paired to the 8 speed in my JL, but after driving my 4XE for few months now I am spoiled. The thing really moves when you go WOT and it does so pretty...
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