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  1. New 2021 Horrible Experience. Does FCA Even Care?

    Is the dealer Walled Lake LaFontaine? It would be nice to know so folks don't make the same mistake. If it's not in the Walled Lake area, it is easy enough to confirm. In the Boston area, Grava is place from which I would not look to buy a car.
  2. New 2021 Horrible Experience. Does FCA Even Care?

    The ability to pursue Lemon Law protections only last so long. I think I would pursue them sooner rather than later. If I had this amount of trouble with a new car, I'd hate it long after it was 'fixed'. Stories like these take the shine off of wanting a wrangler or JT for my next ride. I've...
  3. Is open Jeep a dying art?

    Nice! Gauntlet thrown to other jeepers. They can go home and warm up with the TX based Solo firepit. Just bought mine last night! (Big memorial day sale on them for those interested) If one doesn't buy a Wrangler for the doors/tops off and/or you don't rock crawl, I am not sure why one buys...
  4. Is open Jeep a dying art?

    There was a parade of Jeep Wranglers driven by High School drivers all around town early this evening (probably a dozen or more). All of which had every window down and the tops rolled back or completely off. Teenagers seem to know the drill albeit with the doors still on. With the exception...
  5. New 2021 Horrible Experience. Does FCA Even Care?

    Be sure to document each dealer visit extremely carefully. How this is done is probably best left to the Lemon Law attorney if you choose to go that route. We bought one of the first KL Cherokees (new fangled transmission) and we took the KL Cherokee to a dealer for work at least six times if...
  6. Is open Jeep a dying art?

    We Pulled a Door off a Jeep Gladiator in 45 Seconds (caranddriver.com) If there is the will, there is a way. If folks can afford a close to $40K or probably more vehicle, they should be able to find space for the doors and tops. Certainly, they can easily take one freedom top off or roll the...
  7. Is open Jeep a dying art?

    I've often wondered what a short (depends who I stand next to), stocky (working on it...getting stocky that is), slow-witted (somewhat witted), bald man (very much so) should do with respect to convertible wear on their top dome. One of my requirements if I do in fact get a wrangler is...
  8. Can the math work out to justify a 4xe?

    This was an email from the State regarding the eligibility. It is all about the 25 mile range :mad: On a side note, justifying the math for a 4xe versus a new Gladiator or WRX. The 4xe is cheaper to insure (~300-$500/year), which is very surprising to me. =========================== Good...
  9. Can the math work out to justify a 4xe?

    I know MA had to cut it off at some point, but the variance varies so much based on driving, temperature, other systems running, etc. and it is SO close. I am not sure how many wranglers are on the road around the country, but there are a TON here. It would seem MA would want some of them to...
  10. Wrangler trims (4xe, Rubicon, etc.) included/excluded from FCA retiree employee price

    The affiliate program (1% under invoice) lists the 4xe (and the Gladiator) as being eligible. Still not sure about the Employee (5% under invoice), but I would assume so if the affiliate program allows it. » Chrysler 300 » Chrysler Pacifica » Chrysler Voyager » Dodge Charger » Dodge...
  11. Can the math work out to justify a 4xe?

    Missing 25 miles makes MA residents miss out on $1500, which is a bummer as they are so close. I didn't realize the 4xe needs premium gas (at least suggested), which would be a pain like my wrx. I should add that the biggest interest is the 0-60 time of 6 seconds. One of the reasons I bought...
  12. Wrangler trims (4xe, Rubicon, etc.) included/excluded from FCA retiree employee price

    Anyone know what Wrangler trims (4xe, Rubicon, etc.) are included or excluded from the FCA retiree employee price? Is there an excel build worksheet that includes the 4xe? I have looked, but haven't been able to find it. (it probably exists, my apologies for being inept)
  13. Can the math work out to justify a 4xe?

    We just signed up for solar to be added to our house to make a plug-in make more sense as well as reduce our brutal monthly electricity bill. Probably could have bought a lot of gas with that chunk of change, but long-term (particularly with federal and state incentives) it will make our...
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