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  1. Aftermarket stereo / speakers vs Alpine-8.4

    Hello everyone, in the process of buying a 2021 Rubicon or Sahara, and evaluating the Alpine / 8.4 option package. The consensus around here seems to be that the stereo is fine but not exceptional. Wondering what everyone’s experience is with aftermarket installation of new speakers and stereo...
  2. How is the soft top in the winter? (real winter)

    What top is that?? Love the video!
  3. JL Jeep Tops and Seats- Real World Performance from Members

    I am curious about how hot the black leather will get with the top down. I have black leather in my current car and it does not bother me at all--with that in mind, should I be concerned about black leather with the top down? I test drove 2 JLs this week, one with leather and one without, and...
  4. Jeep owners probably most prepared for Corona Virus

    I definitely hope people will listen to doctors, epidemiologists, virologists, and public health experts when evaluating this issue vs. listening to complete idiots like Rudy Giuliani or Sean Hannity....but this is 'Merica and I know how 'Mericans deal with facts and experts, since half the...
  5. Jeep owners probably most prepared for Corona Virus

    It also doesn't help that Fox and right-wing media and politicians are down-playing the virus (including our own president saying it's a hoax as recently as last week) and luring people into a false sense of security. No need to "panic" but there is a need to take action, prepare, learn about...
  6. Underestimating the Edition Models of Wrangler

    You're right, Willys vs. Sahara isn't really a question of a "special edition" including a lot of options packaged together for an overall discount...it's two different trim levels completely. I guess I have no idea how to compare the built-in characteristics of the Willys vs. Sahara, I just...
  7. Underestimating the Edition Models of Wrangler

    I am kind of in the same boat with Willys vs. Sahara. By the time I add the options I want (Dual top, Cold Weather, Alpine / upgraded Uconnect screen, V6, auto transmission) they are only about $1,500 apart ($47,585 vs. $49,035). Seems like at that point it's just a difference in aesthetics...
  8. Help with configuration / pricing on 2020 Sahara Altitude

    Any thoughts on the configuration below? I am a first-time Jeep buyer. The Jeep will be a daily-driver, 99.9% city driving, mostly NOT on the highway, I drive at most 10K miles a year. We had a Sport as a rental last year and liked it--I assume the Sahara will be a little more luxurious...
  9. MSRP v. "Sticker" v. "Dealer Invoice" v. "Invoice"

    Hello all - New to the forum. Sorry if this is addressed elsewhere, but I wanted to make sure I understand the terminology used here. "MSRP" - This is obvious "Invoice" - When people say "invoice," does this mean "dealer invoice," like what the dealer paid for the vehicle from FCA - OR does it...
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