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  1. 2020 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited ORDER GUIDE (4-Door)!

    The order guide doesn’t indicate that they’re mutually exclusive. Likely a glitch like you indicated.
  2. In praise of the Stock JL

    FWIW, we had a rental Barlow Jeep (great company btw. Super nice and helpful and they know their stuff) last month and did Broken Arrow and a few other trails. Ours was a JLUR with the moose lift and 35” Falkens. No need for lockers at all, and the extra ground cleaners form the lift and tires...
  3. What's New For 2020 Jeep Wrangler? (Engines, Exterior, Interior & Safety)

    In the order guide, it still shows the LED lighting group for $995 MSRP. I’d assume that the primer is incorrect, or maybe meant to say that LED lights are available at extra cost.
  4. Alien Sunshade Review

    Do these work with the hardtops that have the headliner as well?
  5. 2020 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited ORDER GUIDE (4-Door)!

    A pink soft top wouldn’t work, but a pink hardtop would be great. That with the purple seats, I might do. But it depends on if they have the right shade of pink.
  6. 2020 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited ORDER GUIDE (4-Door)!

    The purple with red stitching wouldn’t work.
  7. 2020 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited ORDER GUIDE (4-Door)!

    The problem is I really want the P’unkn orange but my wife (and I as well) don’t like the clash with that and the red stitching. And not a fan of the beige seats. And the new dark saddle isn’t much different. So it’s going to be between white, red, or sting grey for us it seems like. Gobi...
  8. 2020 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited ORDER GUIDE (4-Door)!

    Also, no trail cam. Thought we'd have seen that added as an option as well. It would require the larger grill inserts, but they already have them for the Gladiator.
  9. 2020 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited ORDER GUIDE (4-Door)!

    Lol. My comment was specific to combinations of the exterior and interior. Guess I should have been clearer on that.
  10. 2020 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited ORDER GUIDE (4-Door)!

    Disappointed about the color options. Also wondering if the black leather seats will still have red stitching or if they’ll go to white stitching like on the Sahara. The latter would make the exterior color selection much easier. As much as I love the red stitching, it and the red dash panel...
  11. 2020 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited ORDER GUIDE (4-Door)!

    But the Rubicon is and has been available with the eTorque 2.0T, and the same assumed characteristics would apply to that as well. I think it’s mostly to meet CAFE requirements, and I suspect it’s because it would be too complex from a price point if they offered basically 3 engines in the...
  12. Jeep Wrangler June 2019 Sales Figures (US and Canada)

    No, and basically Ram and Jeep are and have been carrying FCA all along. However, those models that are selling well are outliers, as most of the industry is seeing a drop in sales overall which is expected to continue.
  13. Jeep Wrangler June 2019 Sales Figures (US and Canada)

    Impressive how the GC is still going strong despite being on an 10 year old platform. Shows how good of a vehicle it is. Numbers are down across the board though, for most automakers. And they’re not expected to recover. Some are arguing that we’ve reached “peak car.” A Jeep-sharing future...
  14. SoCal Dealer Experience - need advice

    I had them all quote me the same thing. A well loaded JLUR, with my own financing through my CU, 10% down, and no-trade in. The folks in Vegas were at 5% if I financed through them, and if not, it came out to 3%. Part of that was because they seen to tack on a $500 or so doc fee when not...
  15. SoCal Dealer Experience - need advice

    So Jim Marsh will be about 5% off of invoice if you finance with them. If you don’t finance with them, then they’re roughly 3% off of invoice, at which point it’s the same as Poway Jeep.
  16. SoCal Dealer Experience - need advice

    I haven’t yet purchased as I’m waiting for the 2020. I’ve contacted numerous ones about ordering and trying to get discounts anywhere near what other dealers in other states are giving, and the only one that offered a 3% off invoice right off the bat with no negotiation was Poway Jeep. I...
  17. end of 2019 orders and start of 2020?

    Could be. If their CAFE numbers are affected by the popularity of the base 3.6, this could be their way to try and incentivize people to move to the 3.6 BSG or 2.0T, on the basis that they are more powerful. But for $500, I'd be happy that they still offer the base 3.6, when the alternative is...
  18. end of 2019 orders and start of 2020?

    I can't see them changing the 2.0T to be a $2K option versus the $1K option it is now. If that's really the case, it'll basically be a $4K option unless it suddenly becomes available with a 6MT.
  19. end of 2019 orders and start of 2020?

    I wish I could buy more than 4 gallons of additional gas from this dealer. ;)
  20. Want to save thousands on you JL purchase? Watch this...

    So what kind of APR are they able to get with their financing? I understand it's credit based, but assuming good or excellent credit, what are people seeing from them? Thanks!