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  1. Purchasing a New JK vs. a JL?

    I would say it really depends on how much you're willing to spend. There isn't anything that one can do that any another Wrangler can't. A YJ,TJ,JK,JL can all run the same trails. The JL Rubicon is undoubtedly nicer than a JK, but is it $20,000 nicer? $45 - $60k is A LOT of money for how basic...
  2. Lift kit from JK will fit JL?

    Nothing a grinder and a welder can't fix right? ;)
  3. Rubicon 2 Door vs 4 Door

    IMHO Wranglers shouldn't have 4 doors. If you want 4 doors buy a Cherokee. I wouldn't hold it against someone if they bought a 4 door though. I just think they look ... weird (poser-ish?) ... like when you see some Toyota owner driving around with their doors off.
  4. 2 DOOR JL build/order discussions master thread

    Where I live I was told it would be around August for what I wanted (2 dr Rubicon with the powered top). I live in the middle of Oregon though and not a big city so that might have a lot to do with it.
  5. Proximity Sensor puts Jeep into neutral if someone is too close

    If it auto parks with the door open ... does that mean you can't drive with the doors removed?
  6. Sahara or Rubicon?

    You don't need lockers and a Rock-Trac TC to drive on dirt roads. FWIW you can do this with open diffs and a Dana 35c. So I think you'd be better off with the Sahara. You can always build onto it later on if you want to do more with the Jeep.
  7. What are the chances of landing a Sahara/Rubicon under $600/Month if financed?

    If you owe 18K and you can sell it to CarMax for 16k then I would just suck it up and pay the negative equity with $3k of your down payment money and use the rest on a Sahara. If you tried to trade it in now, the stealership would probably find a way to screw you over on the trade and take as...
  8. Buying a JK instead of a JL - Interesting Perspective

    Brand New vs Brand New with both on the same lot I don't know why anyone would pick the JK over a JL. You'd have to be drunk or high. I'll admit I did just bought a JK instead of waiting for the JL cause I couldn't wait till summer when the dealerships here plan to stock them :mad:. I...
  9. When are the "good" colors going to be in production for 2 doors??

    "Good" colors? Like Jazz Blue Metallic or Plum Crazy Purple ... I'd like to have one of one of those colors but sadly they probably won't offer them.
  10. What lift kit will you go with for your JL Wrangler?

    Rubicon JL comes with 33's right? I'll probably run with those until I need new tires or start having problems on the trail and go from there. 35's and the 2 inch lift would look nice but no point in adding the extra tire weight if I don't need it.
  11. 2018 JL Manual Window Option

    I'll trade you the manual windows from my YJ for your power windows :puppyeyes:
  12. JL Wrangler vs New Ford Bronco

    Maybe I just run with the wrong group of people, but I've never seen a Bronco on the trail. I'm sure they'll out there somewhere. So I see it as more of a competitor to the Hummer/Toyota/Big SUV crowd. It'll sell because people want the look, like with the Hummer craze.
  13. Ford files patent for autonomous off-road system

    Why? Doesn't that take all the fun out of it?
  14. If you couldn't get a Jeep Wrangler...?

    A XJ or KK. I thought about getting a KK and lifting it with 33's when they first came out. If that wasn't a possibility then a Fiat 695 Abarth. Tiny car, but a lot of fun to drive with a damn good exhaust note from the factory.
  15. Members old and new -- check in and wave hello!

    It was actually pretty nice for the whole week that I had it. I never got the chance to test it out off road but on road was great. It had a pretty cool feature that you could set so it automatically lower and raise to make getting in and out easier. Which was nice with the 6 inch lift. I would...
  16. LOL Thread

    I seen this and just had to post it because it's just too funny. Yep $56,000 for a 2008 Rubicon Unlimited with 132,000 miles. :cwl: To keep this thread a little more interesting ...
  17. Which JL engine are you most interested in?

    I'd go for the diesel but I doubt I could wait that long. If they add a lot of EGR/DEF emissions control stuff I wouldn't bother though. They've already improved the crawl ratio on the Rubicon so I'd be happy with the 295 torque from the hurricane engine and the auto. The ZF 8 speed trans is nice.
  18. Members old and new -- check in and wave hello!

    Might as well post in this thread and introduce myself. I have a 88 YJ that I saved from a salvage yard about 10 years ago with more blood, sweat and tears put into it than one should admit. I used to have a 06 TJ but it was stolen out of my driveway shortly after I installed an AiRock lift...