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  1. Did I get suckered in the finance room?

    Should be Vehicle Total (including destination charge) - trade in Documentation Fee Sales Tax (on the 2 items above) Registration Fee = Total out the door price, or total on loan, then minus down-payment You don't pay tax on the trade in value
  2. To winch, or not to winch... (a young lady's perspective)

    I’m not sure what being a woman has to do with it, but if it’s just for looks, I’d say the bumper looks great without the winch. It’s not like the winch sits down into the bumper, leaving an empty hole where the cable is pulled. However, if you think you may need a winch at any point during...
  3. What are we going to use the AUX buttons for?

    -Power inverter to run mini fridge and crock pot for overland trips -lights
  4. Hello From JeepCares

    @JeepCares has IIHS given any notice when safety ratings will be available?
  5. Show off your Delivered JL Here!

    I'm curious with what you did with the takeoff tires and wheels. So the mopar beadlock wheels from the catalog are 4.4 bs?
  6. Can you afford what you want?

    Full pricing details are starting to roll in, and even though they're around what I expected, it's still too much to pull the trigger. I'm out
  7. Staying or getting off the bandwagon?

    I'll make a new poll when full pricing is unveiled
  8. 2018 Wrangler JL Unlimited vs 2018 Toyota 4Runner

    Ok I'll play... Throwing more money at anything will make it better, therefore a true test of a vehicle's prowess is at its base model so we can compare apples to apples. A base SR5 vs Base sport: -engine: yota 270 HP, 278 (4400 rpm) T; jeep 285 HP, 260 (4800 rpm) T. I'll take the higher...
  9. 2018 Wrangler JL Unlimited vs 2018 Toyota 4Runner

    I'm very familiar with 4Runner, as I have researched the crap out of it and test driven one. Just because you disagree doesn't mean I'm not making an informed opinion
  10. Lets play The Price Is Right

    I think the auto will be less than $2000. Aftermarket headliners are a few hundred. You can even make your own with cardboard and yoga mats.
  11. 2018 Wrangler JL Unlimited vs 2018 Toyota 4Runner

    On paper, the 4Runner will win every time when you compare technicals, features, reliability, safety, and certainly PRICE. The reason to choose the jeep is more of a subjective desire - sense of community, being creative with mods, heritage, etc... A late model Toyota will blow the doors off a...
  12. At what price increase do you say nope

    I have a sport vs Sahara spreadsheet with base price, options, and tax. I update as information comes out, and I use JK prices for options we don't know yet. My out the door must remain below $45k. Options I've compromised: -8.4 screen with Nav - HD electrical package. I will just get $375...
  13. JLWF's Live Coverage of JL Wrangler Reveal: Photos, Videos, Info and Q&A

    Sure hope you're right. Saw this on Instagram
  14. 2018 Jeep Wrangler Price MSRP, 2.0L Turbo MPG, Colors Previews Shown in JL Internal Info Sheet

    It's time to bust out the calculator... 2.0 is cheaper up front, but requires 91 fuel and requires a more aggressive maintenance schedule, per the users manual.
  15. JL Wrangler FAQ and Answers From the LA Show Debut

    I'd be more than happy to send you the sport flares since I plan on buying mopar paintable ones...for a small fee of course
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