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  1. Will This Be The Wrangler’s True Competitor? 2021 Ford Bronco First Leaked Look

    Correct. It is not the technology (IFS vs SFA), it is the execution. There are awesome rock-crawling buggies with IFS and horrible at crawling SFA vehicles. Given Ford's experience implementing IFS on the F150 Raptor and Ranger Raptor, their imperative that the Bronco is reviewed well by the...
  2. Jeep Introduces New 6.4-liter V-8 Wrangler Rubicon 392 Concept

    No, it is not. You don't counter the launch of a full line up of 3 vehicles, the top 2 besting your current offerings in innovation, engine options, transmission options, wheel/tire sizes, half doors that can be removed with a single bolt and an easy to disconnect power harness with road-legal...
  3. Will This Be The Wrangler’s True Competitor? 2021 Ford Bronco First Leaked Look

    A better (more direct comparison) is: Outerbanks = $38,995 Wildtrack = $48,875 So, for less that $10K, you get: Sasquatch Package (35” tires, F/R lockers, 4.7 final drive, upgraded suspension, wide feders, etc) 2.7L V6 10 Speed Auto If you assume that the 10-speed auto is ~$2K and the...
  4. Will This Be The Wrangler’s True Competitor? 2021 Ford Bronco First Leaked Look

    Are the shocks inside the coils as a single unit? Are the shocks and coils on the same plane vs being horribly offset in position like in the Wrangler? If you answered yes to both of them (as you should have) then it is a coil over shock with many advantages. Is it a dual-coil adjustable height...
  5. Will This Be The Wrangler’s True Competitor? 2021 Ford Bronco First Leaked Look

    How long did those plastic running boards last on the trail? I have wheeled my stock JKUR Hard Rock on some tough trails and I have takes people on Stockish Saharas on some decently hard trails. There is no doubt Wranglers are pretty capable out of the box. But I think you are discounting what...
  6. Will This Be The Wrangler’s True Competitor? 2021 Ford Bronco First Leaked Look

    I don't know, but how much will it cost to add Dana 44s, 4.7 gears, F/R lockers, 35" M/T tires on beadlock capable wheels, skids and plates and super high end coil-overs to any a JL Sport or Sahara? $20,000? If Sasquatch is $10,000 it would still be an amazing deal. My guess is that it is around...
  7. Will This Be The Wrangler’s True Competitor? 2021 Ford Bronco First Leaked Look

    The main takeaway is that Ford just devalued the Rubicon model by offering 35" M/T tires plus F/R lockers plus 4.7 gearing as an option on every Bronco, from the base on up (Sasquatch package). That package alone will make any Bronco more capable than any factory Wrangler on almost any trail.
  8. Will This Be The Wrangler’s True Competitor? 2021 Ford Bronco First Leaked Look

    Really? You are just making it up. Have you ever wheeled a non-lifted Sport? Do you know how ridiculously low to the ground it is? How much U-joint breaking wheel spin you will get with those open diffs? Factory for factory 35" + 2 lockers beat out 31" tires open/open on any trail. If money was...
  9. Will This Be The Wrangler’s True Competitor? 2021 Ford Bronco First Leaked Look

    You know you put in the specs for the top of the line JLUR wrangler Model. But, for the Bronco the angles, ground clearance, etc can be achieved by even the Bronco Base model + Sasquatch package, which includes 35" M/T tires, front/rear lockers, much better shocks, coilovers on all 4 corners...
  10. Will This Be The Wrangler’s True Competitor? 2021 Ford Bronco First Leaked Look

    Lets see, imagine a tough trail: Matchup 1: Bronco Base + Sasquatch Package (35" M/T tires, front and rear lockers, skids and rails included) vs Wrangler Sport (with any factory option you want) = no contest, Bronco wins. Matchup 2: Bronco Base + Sasquatch Package (35" tires, front and rear...
  11. Will This Be The Wrangler’s True Competitor? 2021 Ford Bronco First Leaked Look

    I have to say, the 2 door in that configuration does look good. But remember that >80% of wranglers are 4 doors.
  12. Will This Be The Wrangler’s True Competitor? 2021 Ford Bronco First Leaked Look

    Yes. Why the surprise? Most passenger vehicles these days have frameless doors, a.k.a. half doors. The wrangler looks completely ridiculous with the top down/off and doors on with the frame. It's another money saving decision by Jeep because their buyers just take it.
  13. Will This Be The Wrangler’s True Competitor? 2021 Ford Bronco First Leaked Look

    You guys are arguing over such non sense. Any outdoors/4x4/adventure inclined person should be delighted that a new vehicle is coming to the market with factory: * 4.7 rear gears mated to a 10-speed auto or 7-speed manual with crawler gear * Choice of ~300HP/~300TQ 4cyl turbo or ~400HP/~400TQ...
  14. Interior Hi-Lift jack mount

    For the first 2 weeks I owned my JK (while waiting for the behind the rear seat mount) I had my Hi-Lift under the rear seats strapped with bungee straps. It was a very solid and safe set up, with the steel seat anchors securing the jack. It was also very convenient to pull it out if you needed...
  15. Interior Hi-Lift jack mount

    You've got to be kidding me. From a safety point of view it is a terrible idea to mount a heavy and sharp object like that. Having said that, I agree with you that mounting the HiLift Jack inside the is the right way to go. On my JK, I mounted it low and behind the back seats using steel...
  16. Looks Like Ford Bronco is Serious About Taking on the Wrangler

    But many people upgrade their Wranglers with larger tires, heavy armor, and some even tow with them. All of the above makes the barely adequate engine choices on the Wrangler an even sadder story.
  17. Looks Like Ford Bronco is Serious About Taking on the Wrangler

    One thing is certain. The Bronco engine/transmission line up will expose how inadequate the Wrangler options are. The base 2.3L Ecoboost on the Bronco will have more power and torque than the base and upgraded gas engines on the Wrangler. Transmission will 10 vs 8 gear on auto and 7 vs 6 gears...
  18. Minimum Garage Clearance for your Wrangler? - Let's discuss

    Just a word of caution. Clearance to your own garage entering from straight and level is different than going up a multilevel parking garage of the same clearance, particularly for JLUs. Most of the height/clearance challenges are when you are entering or starting to go up another level and...
  19. Why Are Lightweight Vehicles Better Off-Road Than Heavier Vehicles, Or Are They?

    All things being equal, a lighter vehicle is a better vehicle on all things, except in a crash with another movable object. That is true for every vehicle, from race cars to trucks to airplanes to off-road vehicles. The goal is not to maximize friction, which as you pointed out can be done by...
  20. Pulled over.

    @OP That is why vehicles like the Ford F-150 Raptor, SuperDuty Tremor and upcoming Bronco Raptor that come from the factory with 35s with a 50-state legal setup and full warranty are such a big deal. Jeep needs to catch up here and offer at least one setup from the factory with 35s, which we...
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