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  1. Weight of JL / JLU Wrangler?

    I thought the sports bar was staying just a true roll cage now built into the frame(?). I always figured this would increase not decrease weight.

    I think it's more about not having the glass sticking out like that which could cause damage to the glass or struts if it knocks into something. I'm not sure how most would use it tho.
  3. Update: 2018-2019 JL Wrangler Timeline Schedule (2DR JL & 2.0L Delay, Powertop & Diesel Dates, Etc)

    The chart says "higher level trim package" Is this a new model above the Sahara/Rubicon or just a new package with higher end features?
  4. Side Air Bags are Standard for 2018 Wrangler

    Maybe they just make the optional side airbags standard on the final year Jk?
  5. Wheelbase...Will it Change in the JLU or JL?

    Curious why you think the JLU will increase but not JL. i would think both will if either of them do.
  6. Partially Uncovered JLU Rear End

    Isn't that pretty much what that clay model Wrangler/Renegade mashup was showing? IIRC the quarter and rear windows could be popped out without removing the roof.
  7. First Look: Production Interior of the 2018 Jeep Wrangler JL/JLU!

    So... is the consensus here that the base dash and center stack will be the same materials but in black and some silver/chrome?
  8. 90 days

    Wow didn't realize it was only 90 days away.. very excited and optimistic! FCA has more riding on this than ever with both Ford and Toyota about to bring back some serious competition.
  9. QTDDTOT: Questions that don't deserve their own thread

    Dumb question I've always wondered about the JL prototypes.. why paint them when they are fully camo'd up? not like they are testing how the paint holds up to real world use.
  10. 2018 Wish List

    You would think so but if I'm not mistaken the current Rubicon hood vent is not functional unless you cut it. I guess it all depends what the fender vent is for whether more for aero or actually for engine cooling.
  11. Two new spottings today

    Thanks, I guess that is what we'll be getting for the JL. For that price I really wish it would include some better dome/ambient lighting on the inside.
  12. Two new spottings today

    Didn't they give the 2017's LEDs? or is it an added option and how much?
  13. Should I wait for 2018 Wrangler?

    I'm definitely waiting. I like what I see so far and think there are even better surprises coming soon about the roof options. It'll probably drop here first so Im pretty much reloading this all day lol.
  14. 2018 Wrangler Drops Camo, Shows Backup Camera, Roofline, Grab Handles, Signs of Foldable Windshield

    That's a good point. If the backup cameras are required by law now, how does it display for people who have the base radio? Or maybe that's why even the base Sport is going to have a 5" screen from the sounds of it?
  15. Verified: Engine Start-Stop (ESS) Standard on 3.6L Pentastar 2018 Wrangler Engine

    Fact is the auto makers don't want you to disable it. It just leads to more complaints about poor fuel economy. Eventually ESS is going to be non defeatable, it is just a matter of time so they better get everyone used to it.
  16. Which JL engine are you most interested in?

    Assuming we see a 3 engine line up with the Hurricane, updated Pentastar and the diesel, what are we all thinking will be the base engine (Pentastar I would think?) and how much price difference between them?
  17. Our New Jeep Wrangler (2018+) Unlimited and Pickup Preview Renderings

    ^U gotta wonder if the JL is no longer going to get a pass under the convertible exemption will there be extra bolstering along the pillars and strengthening of doors/weight added as a result? Not saying they won't make the doors removable, they would be insane to do that but maybe harder to...
  18. JL Roof

    First the roof, now this. I would also like to know what regulations. Is it just the lack of traditional hinges?
  19. Jeep to bow out JK Wrangler with several limited edition models. Production ends Sept.

    Thats a lot of special editions. But unless it comes with the new 8 speed and diesel I'll hold out for the JL.