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  1. Centerforce Clutch Installed on JL Rubicon

    Out of stock until August or so. I spoke with a rep recently and he said the demand has outpaced supply ever since the new recall was issued.
  2. Clutch Recall (FCA W12 | 20V-124) on 2018-2020 JL Manuals [overheating clutch pressure plate]

    Maybe I am remembering this wrong, and correct me if I am, but didn't this second recall arise because a third-party tested the MT JL after having the first recall completed, and still was able to grenade the clutch? So, FCA "voluntarily" issued this second recall? ...anyway, I guess it...
  3. Clutch Recall (FCA W12 | 20V-124) on 2018-2020 JL Manuals [overheating clutch pressure plate]

    Nah... I stand by my statement, backed up BTW by the folks at CF who confirmed to me that the slave cylinder plays no role in these failures, however rare they are. Common sense tells you that if the original recall solved the issue there would be no need for the nannycam firmware of the...
  4. Clutch Recall (FCA W12 | 20V-124) on 2018-2020 JL Manuals [overheating clutch pressure plate]

    Those folks who continue to believe that the slave cylinder has anything to do with these grenades shaped like OEM clutches really need to start cutting their Prozacs in half.
  5. Creaking Doors...anyone?

    I have never used the check mechanism on my jeep. As soon as i took delivery the doors came off (May of 2020) and when they went back on in early October, I did not reattach. I'm old school in my belief that the doors on a jeep are an accessory, much like air conditioning would be, and the...
  6. Centerforce Clutch Installed on JL Rubicon

    I'm fairly sure they need to perform the FW upgrade to consider the recall cleared. The dealership will likely argue that the FW does no harm even if an aftermarket clutch is installed. I personally have no interest in getting the new FW. I've changed so much on this vehicle that it is barely...
  7. Clutch Recall (FCA W12 | 20V-124) on 2018-2020 JL Manuals [overheating clutch pressure plate]

    It will be interesting to see how the new FW acts when users re-marry their Tazers. I'll never know, my JL will never darken the door of an FCA service bay again.
  8. Creaking Doors...anyone?

    I came across this thread while looking for other jeepers with a creaking noise in their doors. Mine does not do what I saw in the first video (noise during open/close.) I am curious though, does this sound persist as a continuous creak while driving? I seem to have a nearly constant creak...
  9. Centerforce Clutch Installed on JL Rubicon

    ...I can't help but to giggle a bit. I also watch the thread regarding the recall on the grenades disguised as OEM clutches. There is no way in hell my Jeep will ever go back to a dealership to get that new FW, or I guess for any service for that matter since they are obligated to push it...
  10. Centerforce Clutch Installed on JL Rubicon

    Yes, I never had them side by side to compare, but I don't recall much difference in how the weights were installed or how they operated. I think the major difference was on the pressure side, to match up better with the new friction plate.
  11. Centerforce Clutch Installed on JL Rubicon

    My wookie showed up immediately after the regear, at about 2k miles on the first install. I expect the engagement zone will move up over some time, I think they all do as wear occurs. I will update if any changes occur.
  12. Centerforce Clutch Installed on JL Rubicon

    ...been driving it for a few days now, I've gotten used to the lighter pedal and I like it better than the first friction disk/pressure plate combo. It has a very clean and short engagement zone. And most importantly, quiet as a mouse... regardless of wheel speed/throttle combinations that...
  13. Centerforce Clutch Installed on JL Rubicon

    ...or maybe not, as I zoom into the image. Seems it may be there after all.
  14. Centerforce Clutch Installed on JL Rubicon

    Well, that was my thought as well, except that the image at the top of this thread clearly shows the absence of the extra retainer.
  15. Centerforce Clutch Installed on JL Rubicon

    ...just curious here. Did your pressure plate arrive looking like that? Mine was sparkling clean.
  16. Centerforce Clutch Installed on JL Rubicon

    OK... so, replacement parts are installed, no noise so far. Seems that the push is lighter (somewhere between the stock feel and the feel of the first set of parts) and engagement occurs further into the pedal stroke. I am interested to hear what others are experiencing, as I chose a different...
  17. Centerforce Clutch Installed on JL Rubicon

    ...got an email from CF today, they are shipping a replacement pressure plate, disc, alignment tool and release bearing on March 1. They want the damaged parts returned for analysis (they say they are including a prepaid shipping label as well). Gonna miss ol' Chewbaca... not.
  18. Clutch Recall (FCA W12 | 20V-124) on 2018-2020 JL Manuals [overheating clutch pressure plate]

    This article takes us back to some basics of manual transmissions. I admit I have forgotten some of these over the years, especially the one about not resting the hand on the stick. I do that all the time :( https://www.goauto.ca/blog/5-things-shouldnt-driving-manual-vehicle
  19. Clutch Recall (FCA W12 | 20V-124) on 2018-2020 JL Manuals [overheating clutch pressure plate]

    Yup. That's really the only open question. My guess is there will be a blame game when you take it to the dealer to get a new clutch, so essentially you are gambling with the manual transmission. At least with the new FW, you are no longer gambling with your life.
  20. Clutch Recall (FCA W12 | 20V-124) on 2018-2020 JL Manuals [overheating clutch pressure plate]

    Well, not me in particular, I was just musing. I am a CF guy who probably won't get the new FW.



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