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  1. What got you in to Jeeps?

    In 1989 I lived in Boca Raton Fl. and had a trailered 2 1/2 ton offshore fishing boat. I burned the clutch out of my 2 wheel truck pulling the boat out of the landing ramps. Needed a 4wd so I settled for a 4wd Cherokee 2dr Sport. Plus I used to tow the boat down to the keys and up to my island...
  2. ORDER TRACKING for your Jeep Wrangler

    I almost ordered a JL Sahara from Koons/Craig. The dealers in the Florida panhandle are just lazy lot salesmen and sales ladies. They know nothing about a JL. SO I checked on having a trucking company pick up a jeep at Koons and ship it to my residence. The average price from 4 shippers was...
  3. Are Freedom Top Headliners Worth It

    I looked into after market headliners and the installation instructions say that you need to remove the top , and put the headliner on while the top is upside down so gravity will help seal the headliner. I decided to order the headliner on the new JLJP Sahara I ordered instead of going thru the...
  4. ORDER TRACKING for your Jeep Wrangler

    Jay When and if you start adding to tracking I ordered a JLJP Sahara 1/12/2018 VON 40882787
  5. What other vehicles are you cross shopping? $5-6k increase causing second thoughts on JLU

    Since the jeep dealers within a 130 mile radius of my residence are lazy, ill informed or full of BS, I have also looked at Chevy impalas. ford F150 pick ups, and caddilac cts. The Impala and F150 equipped with the way I want it is cheaper than the Sahara I have been trying with no success. I...
  6. Confirmed JL Dealership Arrivals

    I live in the panhandle of Florida. Have talked to every dealer with a 120 mile radius about the re-designed jeep. One salesman told me that there is not much difference between the JK and the new jeep. He said no 8 speed auto, no power top and the post on the jeep forums are 99% speculation...
  7. No CD Players on ANY version / option???

    Compression should not throw away data. There is a re-transmit function when the receiving device detects loss of bits in the frame check sequence FCS in the data packet. When an FCS error occurs, the receiving device request the sending device to re-transmit the error frame in a new packet. But...
  8. No CD Players on ANY version / option???

    Now you are getting into the source of MP3. As far as compression / decompression and quality of sound that depends on the processor speed and ram size on the device you are playing the MP3 or copying MP3 to USB. My USB's sound great in my uconnect.
  9. No CD Players on ANY version / option???

    There is always loss when any digital format when converted to analog sound. Google a CODEC or coder/decoder. You will see the loss values and this is why in the digital telephone systems we have today, we have to Pad the DB levels for the CODEC loss when the data is converted to analog. The MP3...
  10. No CD Players on ANY version / option???

    CD's have the same loss, that is why people like vinyl records. USB and CD's are digital format and when played there is a loss on both when the data is converted to analog. I have a unconnect in my wrangler and the sound from my USB is just as good as on my Yamaha house receiver. You want pure...
  11. No CD Players on ANY version / option???

    Just copy your cd's to a USB flash drive. That way you can have 100's of songs on one little chip instead of taking up room with CD's.. Been doing that for years.
  12. Street wheels and tires

    Buy a corvette !!
  13. JL Black Hole

    I don't agree. For one thing the Jl has an 8 speed automatic. Also, the wheel base is either wider or longer. The reason they call the JL a re-design is because there are more enhancements than the JK. Extras like garage door opener, a small change in the body style and other changes. You should...
  14. JL Black Hole

    I live in the panhandle of Florida. I just ordered a Sahara JL today. Don't waste time with that dealer go to another. I bet he wanted to sell you a 2017 JK to clear his 2017 inventory.
  15. What JL/JLU Wrangler Have You Ordered? Post and Vote Your Configuration Here!

    Ordered a JLJP74 Sahara this morning. Held off until the forum posted the standard features list yesterday. trading in a 2015 2dr wrangler.
  16. Chrysler Buy-Back...waiting on the JL

    I ordered a 2018 unlimited 9/15 thinking it was the new re-designed unlimited. I told the sales man that I heard they were coming out with a re-design. He swore there were only minor changes. At the time, I am sure he was telling the truth as he knew it. I put a condition on the deal that if...
  17. Chrysler Buy-Back...waiting on the JL

    The dealer I am dealing with on buying a JL says that they will not be able to order until late Nov. The VON codes are in their system but they say that they don't have MSRP pricing yet. Nor do they have the standard options list. I think some of these dealers are taking orders in their systems...
  18. Explained: Why Dealers Are Confusing 2018 JKU Orders for Next-Gen 2018 JL Wrangler

    I looked up the position of the "JL" on the vin # of the 2018 Jk I ordered. That position indicates the location of the manufacturing plant. You realize that Jeep has reconfigured which plants make which jeeps. Your vin was in 14' not 17'. Look it up the vin with the EL and it will tell you...
  19. Explained: Why Dealers Are Confusing 2018 JKU Orders for Next-Gen 2018 JL Wrangler

    The JL in the vin# stands for the location of the jeep plant in Toledo. Not that the JK is a JL. I ordered a 2018 JK which had the JL in the vin #. I first thought I was getting a JL until I looked up the spot in the vin which had the JL and it was the location of where the new JK's are built...



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